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[-] median_user@lemmy.one 12 points 1 year ago

Selfish behaviour, wasting public money because they don't like a scheme created to improve the health of normal Londoners.

[-] offbyone@feddit.uk 6 points 1 year ago

I hope they'll just be repaired, I'd imagine people won't keep doing it for that long, only at the moment because it's new. Eventually they'll become used to it.

[-] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Why do you want surveillance cameras?

[-] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

How else do you propose to run the ULEZ system bar toll booths all over London to pay at as you drive?

[-] EmrysOfTheValley@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

Imagine the backlash and congestion if they did that.

[-] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Exactly, numberplate cameras are the best bet to manage this.

The people pulling them down aren't making some brave stand against surveillance, they're just arseholes annoyed they're now facing some consequences for the damage their out of date vehicles cause to other people.

[-] HeartyBeast@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Why do you support people spewing PM2.5 particulates?

[-] EmrysOfTheValley@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The UK has one of the highest numbers of surveillance cameras per person, this is just a fact of life that people are used to. The ULEZ cameras are typically ANPR (Automatic Number Plate Recognition), the government already know what cars you own and how polluting they are. You can't deny that these low emission zones are decreasing air pollution and London needs it. The attacks on the cameras are because they are adding surveillance but because it is £12.50p per day if your car does not meet standards so is an added "tax" for living in London which is being forced on the local councils with little thought for the individual circumstance.

There is a Channel 4 show a while ago called Hunted which mimics the levels of surveillance the police have to track contestants down, it is both scary and interesting how much they can work out and track down.

[-] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

It's not a tax, you can easily avoid paying it by just getting a compliant car, can't get out of taxes so easily.

[-] EmrysOfTheValley@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

True, tax is probably not the best word hence the "", fine is better, or just charge.

[-] Treczoks@kbin.social -4 points 1 year ago

So you want to get people become used to surveillance? Keep in mind that 1984 was a warning, not a handbook.

[-] autotldr 5 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


More than 300 cameras installed for London's Ultra Low Emission Zone (Ulez) were vandalised or stolen between April and August, the BBC can reveal.

TfL is planning to install a total of 2,750 cameras before the expansion comes into force at the end of August.

Abbie Mires, who works in the area, said the "harsh action" of targeting Ulez cameras was justified.

Husband and wife, Roy and Linda McKensie had to get rid of two cars ahead of the Ulez expansion, but said they did not agree with cameras being tampered with.

The only figure the BBC has seen was an estimate cost of the planned expansion from November 2022, which was about £159.5m based on assumptions at that time.

This includes spend for systems design, development and testing; on-street infrastructure design, procurement and delivery including camera installation and signage; marketing and media campaign; and legal and consultation costs.


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[-] md5crypto@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

This is literally the only crime London prosecutors will go after LOL

[-] HikuNoir@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago
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