Here's the problem I don't want to play the dementia olympics for the president...

The fact that DNC insists that Biden is the only one they have that can beat trump should scare the shit out of you. That basically guarantees an authoritarian in the next 8 years because the republicans have a deep back bench of ghouls to replace trump when he dies.

And I'm just saying if trump wins and we can't defeat his geriatric thug version of fascism, then America will just fall to the next charismatic fascist wanna be that stumbles by.

He would've been relatively normal aged in episode 3 but by the time of Yoda's death he was geriatric.

Also pretty sure his "deformation" was due to his corruption from the dark side and he simply hid it using sith powers and used the force lightning thing as a ploy to help make him seem like a victim

Also Yoda dies like 3 days after this. And Palpatine lives for 30 more years. Somehow.

at least the Sith are honest I mean, no, the MFers lie to everyone about everything because others are just means to an end so Sith manipulate others to get the desired reaction/outcome. Lie, truth, doesn't matter. Say whatever gets you more power.

And even if Sith were honest about why they wanted to kill you, they are still trying to kill you.

It's intentionally weak logic. You could flip it on its head by arguing that at least the Jedi are trying to help you dispute their flaws.

Atton Rand, the character that says this in KotOR2, is a perfect example of the problematic nature of this both sides view. Yes, the Jedi were not perfect and their flaws ultimately led to incredible suffering and the collapse of the Republic along the way. But the Sith were actively trying to collapse the republic and cause suffering. The Sith created a facist state that (if it had been successful) would have created persistent suffering indefinitely, with no hope or escape. No one thinks Luke is the bad guy form overthrowing the Empire and restoring the Jedi because the empire was utterly evil.

Like Atton Rand (depending on the path chosen), a reasonable person should realise that it is better to work with a flawed agent/system trying to do good, than to allow those flaws to cause ambivilance toward both the flawed agent/system and an obviously evil one.

Atton Rand (who's name was chosen for its similarity to "atone" as in atonement) can change from this view and end up rebuilding the Jedi order (if you play light side). Likewise, the correct answer to the "both sides" argument is to throw off ambivlance and work to fix the broken but beneficent system while fighting evil. The Democrats in the US, and left-center liberals in other countries, have flaws. Fight to fix them. Don't both sides and allow absolute evil to eliminate the flawed good.

... which many countries don't have, because 'First Past the Post' systems naturally lead to only 2 viable choices.

They'll also be an election coming up soon in the UK - I can choose between 'Sensible Conservative' or the currently ruling 'Lunatic Conservative', but anything else would be a wasted vote.

The current American system is that you can protest and mock one for supporting genocidal state. The other will kill you for embarrassing him and his supporters will cheer him on.

Ooh yay, the 'Guess Which Politician' game!

Star Wars is often "Schrödinger's Political Allegory" - the Empire is British/Roman/German but also American (if Endor = Vietnam, and Jedha = the Middle East), but the Rebels are somehow American too. Whatever side you're on, you can use Star Wars to cast yourself as the good guy, and the other side as the baddies.

Yoda was blind to the rise of fascism and got overrun by the emperor. He also supported a questionable system that clearly had lots of issues for hundreds of years.