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submitted 9 months ago by vegeta@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

"Death penalties should be public, should be quick, it should be televised. I think at a certain age, its an initiation...What age should you start to see public executions?" Kirk asked.

Kirk, along with his co-hosts Jack Posobiec, Tyler Bowyer and Blake Neff, continued to discuss at what age should children watch the public executions, with one co-host pointing out as young as 12 years old.

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[-] ServeTheBeam@lemmy.world 67 points 9 months ago

We can’t let kids see gay things! But watching someone get murdered is totally cool.

[-] billiam0202@lemmy.world 45 points 9 months ago

America is a country of violent prudes. There's a reason we rate violent movies lower than movies with "sexual content".

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 28 points 9 months ago

Yep. Beheading where the head flies all over the place? No problem, 12+.

Hint of a single tit? Freakout, 18+!

[-] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.ml 13 points 9 months ago

Pg13 has gone off the rails since I was a kid. Like on-camera gun suicides with chunks, among other things. Meanwhile half the R films I watch don't even have blood anymore blood. Basically pg13 means high violence and R means the tiniest hint that something sexual could maybe happen off screen. I don't get it at all

[-] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

You're forgetting language. Cursing is treated nearly the same as sexual content. Throw a couple fucks in and the movie is rated R even without violence or sexual content.

[-] RagingSnarkasm@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

I don’t have any fucks left to throw.

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[-] maynarkh@feddit.nl 4 points 9 months ago

I wonder what a flying tit would be rated at.

[-] TakiMinase@slrpnk.net 6 points 9 months ago

That Puritan founding. Funny hats make you crazy.

[-] Tehdastehdas@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Funny hats were made with mercury that makes you crazy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mad_as_a_hatter

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[-] whodatdair@lemm.ee 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Well, they need to be shown the consequences of what happens if you do gay things, of course.

If Trump gets back in and they implement that “Project 2025” where they plan to fire 50k government workers and replace them with far right wingnuts, I can envision such a future.

Alito just signaled that they’re not satisfied with just overturning Roe, he’s gunning to overturn Obergefel. I wonder which states it’ll be unsafe to travel through for fear of not being able to see my SO if they get hurt and have to go to the hospital. I wonder if any states will try to ban people with gay marriages from entering.

[-] brlemworld@lemmy.world 39 points 9 months ago

They already do. It's called school shootings. They have drills and everything. It's quite fucked up.

[-] ThatFembyWho@lemmy.blahaj.zone 36 points 9 months ago

More ideas from the Taliban playbook.

Remember kids, a boy is a boy and a girl is a girl, and three witnesses saw Katie get raped so we're going to stone her to death!

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[-] TIMMAY@lemmy.world 35 points 9 months ago

The conservatives want to constantly ramp up the fear factor to keep people in line and this idea of public executions as a spectacle is perfectly in line with their ethos. They are already starting to experiment with new execution methods at the expense of human lives. It is literally the nazi regime again, no hyperbole.

[-] BillyTheSkidMark@lemm.ee 10 points 9 months ago

The "protect the children" group, pro doing nothing to stop school shootings, wants kids to watch people be murdered by the state, doesn't want to let schools feed kids or uplift impoverished families, leading to starving/malnourished children...

But God forbid someone who "looks funny" (to them) wants to read them a kids book.

[-] Snapz@lemmy.world 32 points 9 months ago

They know they have to normalize public execution before they can openly hang the disobedient handmaids on the wall.

[-] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 26 points 9 months ago

If your goal is to make everyone traumatized and live in fear of the government from a young age, then sure

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

That’s exactly the goal

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[-] nutsack@lemmy.world 24 points 9 months ago

man i hate this guy a lot

[-] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 24 points 9 months ago

I would MUCH rather my Children watch a Public Execution then watch two MEN hold HANDS!

[-] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 9 months ago

Why does the order of events matter so much to you?

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[-] PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 23 points 9 months ago

But not sex ed - makes perfect sense.

[-] andrewth09@lemmy.world 23 points 9 months ago

"Today's execution broadcast is sponsored by Dunkin Donuts. America runs on Dunkin"

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[-] Drivebyhaiku@lemmy.world 22 points 9 months ago

I have been privy to people's reactions to watching videos, even grainy distorted ones of executions or accidental death. While adults are generally fairly innocculated against depictions of death that are known to be fictional the same is not true of the real thing. There is good reason why even barely legible death caught on film is aired on news broadcasts with warnings and particularly graphic ones are not broadcast at all. While I think I sit somewhere on the less effected side (effected but very good at compartmentalization) a lot of the people I have personally witnessed veiw footage have been generally very perturbed to the point where the mental disquiet lingers for days after the fact.

Young children are generally perturbed by depictions of theatrical or even loosely conceptualized death in print. While some might seem brave in the face of fictional gore it's basically just playing brave and flouting their idea of being tough when what they are being tough against is a safe little fiction. People who like slasher movies aren't immune to being traumatically impacted when exposed to real death on film.

I find it very telling that there is this mental disconnect that children being "exposed" to the depictions of same sex relationships which are often depicted in the same chaste presentation heterosexual relationships are for age appropriate audiences is somehow "disturbing" while something legitimately traumatizing to the average adult is somehow something kids should be exposed to in the most graphic way possible.

I don't think this man should be permitted to be around children much less advocate for what constitutes an initiation into adulthood.

[-] tooclose104@lemmy.ca 17 points 9 months ago

Stumbled across an execution on 4chan once in my early twenties. The moment I realized what was up I closed the browser and never returned to 4chan. It still pops up in my head every now and then as an intrusive thought.

If anyone ever tried to force one of my kids to watch an execution I'd lose my damn mind, regardless of their age.

[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

In a way I'm glad to hear it affected you so much. I think that's generally healthy.

[-] Facebones@reddthat.com 13 points 9 months ago

Simple - they want children to think two boys kissing is scary and taboo, but want children to think hanging a boy in the public square for kissing a boy is super cool and normal.

[-] Drivebyhaiku@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

Yeah, the unvarnished answer is usually about that ugly isn't it?

[-] PeckerBrown@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago
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[-] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago

Guy at work touted this out. Before I could even say it he was like, "well not small children." Guys, let's be real here, these idiots don't know a God damn thing and are just constantly running their mouths.

[-] winky9827b@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

You know who else thinks public executions are a valid means of maintaining power and control over others? Religious extremists...oh wait.

[-] AlteredStateBlob@kbin.social 16 points 9 months ago
[-] Nougat@kbin.social 6 points 9 months ago

Yes, Christianity is an apocalyptic death cult.

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[-] vegeta@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago

let's desensitize them to violence as early as possible, WCGW.

/s

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago

Conservatives straight up stealing notes from ISIS.

[-] die444die@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

Ok can we start with his?

[-] Badeendje@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

George Carlin called it. Maybe they need to put it on cable TV.. the violence network.. you know to balance the budget.

https://youtu.be/5H-NctipBvg?si=hsl0FLV0BuI_g4MW

[-] antidote101@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

I think this is a bad idea because American media tends to make everything absurd. There'd be top ten count downs and behind the scenes specials... They'd probably get a UFC style announcer... Maybe do a cribs show.... How to cook the final meals competition. "So I married a executioner" TV special. Real wives of prisoners and prison officers special.

[-] 4am@lemm.ee 11 points 9 months ago

Bro that’s what they want. These people are axe murders who want to find a way to do it without being shunned by society.

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[-] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Who are these primitive nut bags?

[-] Psiczar@aussie.zone 9 points 9 months ago

They could make it a game show, and call it “The Running Man”.

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[-] yesman@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

Being on death row for years is torture, why would we seek to spare the condemned agony only at the last moment? The answer is that we don't. "Painless" or "humane" executions are meant to spare the State and capital punishment supporters of pain, not the condemned.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 7 points 9 months ago

Tonight on the Execution Channel!

How should we execute this homosexual? Vote now. Calls charged at $5 a minute, minimum charge $5.

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[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

Charlie Kirk needs a beshaving to make his face the right size.

[-] Iwasondigg@lemmy.one 6 points 9 months ago

We should start with Charlie Kirk.

[-] xc2215x@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

Absolutely not.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

Gosh, these cons seem like such well-adjusted adults, don't they?

[-] ivanafterall@kbin.social 5 points 9 months ago

It's how he was raised, and he turned out fine!

[-] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

I'd be open to him taking the first step and broadcasting his own so then we can decide how to move forward.

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