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[-] TowardsTheFuture@lemmy.zip 36 points 8 months ago

Finally, a true hero defending the poor housing market that is doing so poorly….

[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 24 points 8 months ago

How many of those SoCal homes had previously been taken over by bougie profit speculating developers and landlords?

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 7 points 7 months ago

I would support the squatters if it's always million + dollar residences that have just been sitting idle.

[-] evasive_chimpanzee@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

I think that's usually the case. Yeah, a squatter could be waiting in the bushes for you to go to work so they can break in and set up shop, but they'd know that would lead to a fight, so they'd aim for unoccupied houses where they'd be left alone

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 24 points 7 months ago

Recently, squatters took over a Beverly Crest mansion and turned it into a wild party house where hundreds of rowdy guests would show up every night.

In February, another group of squatters took over a Hollywood Hills mansion and used the property to produce OnlyFans content.

I hope these are the squatters he's focusing on and not desperate homeless people who found an unoccupied 2 bedroom house to sleep in.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

Yeah, he needs to focus on homeowners who can afford to pay him, not those pesky middle income people

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

"Pesky middle income people" who own a house in L.A. that they aren't using?

[-] andrewta@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

He goes all over California

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Which part of California does he go to where "pesky middle income people" have homes just sitting empty?

[-] ineffable@sh.itjust.works 18 points 8 months ago

Bet you $100 he is breaking the law almost every time

[-] comador@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Actually he's not, he is using a loophole whereby the owners sign an official lease with him for him to reside there.

The other tenant(s) do not have a lease and therefore are not within the legal right to complain.

edit: He also doesn't do it directly for profit, thus bypassing other laws. His site explains it in a youtube video here: https://squatterhunters.com/about/

[-] ineffable@sh.itjust.works 12 points 8 months ago

The website doesn't really explain anything though, and even says that the laws should be amended

Why would the legal world take much longer and many more dollars to achieve what this guy can? Why wouldn't everyone just sign a lease to their friend?

If the landlord is aware of the squatters and then enters into a lease intended to deprive them of possession, how is that not just an end run around the law?

[-] comador@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The website doesn't really explain anything though

The video does, but here's one that may explain it better:

https://www.the-sun.com/news/10824220/squatter-hunter-flash-shelton-evict-laws-business/

Why would the legal world take much longer and many more dollars to achieve what this guy can?

The court system here has a huge backlog, so it can literally take a year in MOST cases to get rid of them (if not longer like during Covid). An owner basically has to first call the cops who verify they are not a paying tenant, then weeks later file a petition with the city to have them removed within 90 days, then after 90 days, if they do not vacate, submit a court action to go to court. If they're a no show on the court date several months later, they will finally get forcibly removed a few weeks after the court date. All this because they, squatters have rights:

https://www.sapling.com/12143680/legally-rid-squatters-california

Why wouldn't everyone just sign a lease to their friend?

If you have friends willing to take the risk of getting injured or hurt in the process, sure, but I don't know anyone who would do that personally.

If the landlord is aware of the squatters and then enters into a lease intended to deprive them of possession, how is that not just an end run around the law?

As stated before, it's a loophole to the squatters rights linked above. Here is SoCal you either wait your turn for your day in court whilst they trash the place OR you do something like this. The law just hasn't caught up and thus why Squatter Hunter is lobbying for change.

[-] ineffable@sh.itjust.works 6 points 8 months ago

Thanks, you did say to watch the video and I missed that, I'll give it a watch

[-] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 2 points 7 months ago

The legal world takes longer because courts are backed up and it can take months to get any resolution.

People don't just sign leases to their friend because the intent here is to have him move into the home. Unless your friend is willing to move in in order to drive these people out, your plan won't work.

The lease allows him to live in the house despite the squatters illegally occupying the home. How can you honestly question whether the home owner is breaking the law when the squatters have no legal right to live in the home in the first place?

[-] evasive_chimpanzee@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago

This guy just found a niche job as the bouncer for the 2nd/3rd/nth homes of the ultrawealthy, and he's trying, and apparently news outlets are helping to promote it as a good thing. Most people don't have a problem with squatters because they actually live in the house they own.

[-] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

There are more empty homes in the United States than there homeless people.

But the market says the problem is there isn't enough home building going on. What a joke of a world we live in.

[-] thefartographer@lemm.ee 11 points 8 months ago

If we had a squatter living in our house, my wife would just tell them that I'm finally making the correct portion size when I cook dinner.

[-] rekabis@lemmy.ca 8 points 7 months ago

If a home is unoccupied, it should be a squatter’s right to occupy it.

If you can’t be arsed to find a tenant for a place, that place should be open season for tenants!

[-] andrewta@lemmy.world -2 points 7 months ago

So let me get this straight.

If I spend my hard earned cash on a house. For any reason I leave for a while. Maybe my work requires I relocate for. (It doesn't matter what the reason is). Because I'm not there that means you can move in?

Talk about seriously entitled.

[-] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 6 points 7 months ago

Or you buy a new house, and while your old house is on the market for sale, someone breaks in and claims it as their own while you're stuck paying for it, can't sell it, and run the risk of having it completely trashed.

[-] tb_@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The expressed sentiment obviously doesn't apply to regular people trying to sell their previous home.

[-] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 3 points 7 months ago

I didn't see that distinction anywhere in the comment and OP was downvoted when they proposed a scenario where a regular person is temporarily gone from their home. This whole idea is quite absurd to be honest and doubly so for the way the proponents here seem to feel so smug and morally superior when suggesting it.

[-] rekabis@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

What’s even more entitled is you thinking you have a right to shelter you don’t even use when hundreds of thousands nation-wide cannot afford shelter due to people like you hoovering up unused homes.

You know what your attitude is called? Parasitical and greedy.

[-] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

You do realize that some people get temporarily relocated for work, right? If I have to do a job for 3 months in Minnesota, it isn't long enough to rent my place in California because renter's rights won't allow me to kick them out when I get back. You think that's me being greedy and parasitical?

[-] andrewta@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago
[-] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

So a person earns money and spends it on something, and you think that is parasitic. A different person spends no money and uses something someone else paid for, and that isn't parasitic?

I agree that housing should be a basic human right. I agree that people owning many homes is problematic. But owning a second house that you use for vacations is not what is causing a housing shortage. Owning 5 homes and Airbnbing 4 of them IS part of the cause. Allowing corporations and foreign citizens to own homes is part of the cause. Me buying empty land and building a vacation house on land that has sat empty for millions of years isn't causing a housing shortage.

[-] andrewta@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago
[-] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Do you extend this sentiment to vehicles too? If I drive to work and park my car there, is it morally correct for someone to come steal it because they want to drive somewhere or sleep in it but don't have a car? After all, it's just sitting there unused, so I must be some entitled asshole for expecting it to be there when I'm ready to head home, right?

I also find it funny you chose the words parasitical and greedy when these squatters are quite literally feeding off the homeowners and selfishly taking something that doesn't belong to them. Your argument is not too different from a CEO who wants to cut worker pay and give himself a bigger bonus with the money.

[-] andrewta@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

I agree with you. How does one apply this logic to homes but not to cars, phones, bikes or anything else?

[-] rekabis@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago

cars, phones, bikes

Since when are those essential to life, or whose availability constantly/consistently mean the difference between life and death?

Food, shelter, and clothing are the essentials that should have a base tier that anyone can leverage at low to no cost. Anything else is superfluous.

[-] andrewta@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Theft is theft. I do not care if it's a bike a phone or house .

[-] andrewta@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

In my example what I was talking about was, while I was away I rented a placed for temporary lodging.

And that is vacuuming up lodging?

I still say you are entitled.

But moving on. Have a good day

[-] andrewta@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

The YouTube video has over a million views in 4 days Video on YouTube

[-] dlpkl@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Good, fuck squatters and fuck squatters' rights.

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