Boy, sure would be nice if there were literally any consequences at all for him, wouldn’t it?
Everyone's afraid of him because of his mob and death threats, personal career consequences and the possibility that he comes back to power in which case all of the above multiplied.
Letting fear make your decisions is not something a public servant should be doing. Most people call cops out for that sort of thing so why would we tolerate it from a judge who is in an arguably more important position?
Ideally public servants would be more afraid of what the public will do to them if they don't do the right thing but we've let ourselves be "civilized" to the point that they know nothing will happen.
The public hasn't been violent enough for a long time. No one is scared of the public.
That’s not what fox news says. I’m told if you live in one of those big cities you’ll get murderized immediately, probably by a illegal or on o’ them diverse people!
Yes but that's vastly different then convincing them that the hand feeding them just enough table scraps to keep from starving is sitting on a hoard.
so why would we tolerate it from a judge who is in an arguably more important position?
Because the person being tossed into jail could very well become the most important position. No nation is above political retaliation and the reality of a mob murdering the judge and daughter and then subsequently getting full pardons from that most important position is a non-zero value.
Given the weakness that exudes from Congress on Impeachment, there's zero ramifications for such a situation. And given the nature of Trump, there's zero compunction that would ever keep him from this situation arising.
Everyone fears the "official" acts that Trump can carry out. Smarter people understand the non-official actions that he can give a nod to and give comfort to. That's how truly corrupt governments work, not by official acts, but the non-official ones.
Not ever doing anything to punish him makes it feel like voting is meaningless. Why participate in a system that doesn't even pretend to hold someone who flagrantly breaks the law and ignores judge's orders with zero repercussions?
You just hit on one of the main reasons a lot of folks think we are watching the decline of the US to… something. Could be a failed state, could be dictatorship/fascism. Could be a handful of smaller countries. Nobody really knows at this point. The future just doesn’t look real bright, and hasn’t for awhile.
If you stay the course, you will have another Putin. Better to get the retaliation of his constituents out of the way now.
So you mean if the left acts a bit violently we could have better healthcare, higher minimum wage, enshrine abortion rights, transition into green energy, stop funding genocide, toss insurrectionists into jail, and all other good stuff?
Yes and no. The right can act violently with little consequences - witness Oklahoma bombing, Ammon Bundy and the Jan6 insurrectionists. The left, and any associates would have been immediately stomped into the ground, like 6 feet under, because the right has big money backing it.
Timothy McVeigh was killed by the state for Oklahoma.
Oklahoma bombing is a bad example. I'd go with the right wing groups that attack protests held by the left.
“Let not any one pacify his conscience by the delusion that he can do no harm if he takes no part, and forms no opinion. Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing. He is not a good man who, without a protest, allows wrong to be committed in his name, and with the means which he helps to supply, because he will not trouble himself to use his mind on the subject.” - John Stuart Mill, 1867
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I look forward to seeing a judge that is brave enough to throw this dude in jail for being in contempt of court. Someone if going to have to risk their wellbeing in order to do that.
LOCK HIM UP
There were some people, I can't remember who they were, that regularly chanted about locking someone up...
Oh yeah but then they drained the swamp, mmm hmmm. Which was nice.
Sort of like how Elon was going to rid Twitter of bots once he bought the company.
Well, he doesn't need bots to manipulate Twitter anymore.
It's still filled with them.
Yes, but he let a sink in. Don't forget about the sink. And on top, nobody understands manufacturing better, he invented space travel and he's the most american American that can americans.
From Africa.
For the most people in jail per capita with the most heavily militarized police force and practically zero accountability, this nation is a fucking joke at enforcing the law on rich white men.
Which, of course, is the entire point.
Take the kid gloves off, treat him like a normal defendant, what would happen to a normal person if they used stochastic terrorism against a Judge's family?
He totally deserves that 10 day, 60% reduction in his obligations.
Ooh, ooh, now do Clarence Thomas, you orange piece of shit.
Next time they issue a gag order for him, it should include an actual ball gag and Chinese finger cuffs.
Chinese finger cuffs
Can't find one small enough for those little sausage fingers.
He could just put both of his entire hands into one
Is he still going for the “provoke a punishment that could be seen as an overreaction so he can appeal and win easily”-thing or is he a dumbass just as usual?
Until he faces consequences for this, there is no downside to him.
And the longer it takes for there to be consequences, the better it is for him when they happen, as it is increasingly attributed to him "being right" to his cult.
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