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[-] seaQueue@lemmy.world 208 points 6 months ago

Any company that intentionally underpays their employees so that they require govt assistance to live should be billed the full cost of all assistance that employee receives.

[-] piracysails@lemm.ee 79 points 6 months ago

I think that minimum wage being a livable salary, is less complicated.

[-] talentedkiwi@sh.itjust.works 22 points 6 months ago

I imagine that's part of their point? At least that is how I took it.

[-] threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 months ago

UBI could be even less complicated. If everyone were guaranteed a livable income, a minimum wage might not even be necessary.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 7 points 6 months ago

I like Scott Galloway's take: SPEAK THEIR LANGUAGE!

Call UBI a negative tax and Republican voters will listen.

[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

Just enough to pay rent and utilities. Then only corporations will own property.

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[-] OCATMBBL@lemmy.world 41 points 6 months ago

Billed double. Make it hurt.

[-] unreasonabro@lemmy.world 26 points 6 months ago

*should be nationalized and sold off, and its mismanagers prosecuted

[-] ragica@lemmy.ml 8 points 6 months ago

The wealthy NEED the airports to keep running so not to interfere with their vacation plan. Starving kids on the other hand can simply be rewoven as doormats by any good capitalist.

[-] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 151 points 6 months ago

I'm GLAD we not only BAILED THESE COMPANIES OUT WITH OUR TAX DOLLARS and also DON'T TAX THEM but we ALSO get to Pay Their Employees!

-Republicans who don't want to use their Tax Dollars to Feed Starving American Children.

[-] bitwaba@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Why would we feed starving children when they're just going to grow up being underpaid employees on welfare?!

[-] adam@doomscroll.n8e.dev 134 points 6 months ago

How is being paid "from pushback to arrival" even vaguely legal?

[-] assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world 92 points 6 months ago

When you have money you get to write the laws.

[-] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 43 points 6 months ago

Remember when a letter from an airline exec was all it took for the cdc to reduce COVID sick leave? PFR...

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[-] Delphia@lemmy.world 51 points 6 months ago

Even fast food restaraunts in airports pay a higher hourly rate to compensate the staff for the added pain in the balls for getting to work.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 21 points 6 months ago

they're salaried? only thing I can come up with.

If they're infact hourly... then work is work, and they're working off the clock.

[-] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 45 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

They're hourly. I still can't believe this is legal.

Edit: found an article on it. Spoiler: it's legal because the government makes all sorts of exceptions for airlines. Their unions even have to get government permission to strike!

https://www.opb.org/article/2024/02/12/flight-attendants-don-t-earn-their-hourly-pay-until-aircraft-doors-close-here-s-why/

[-] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

Thank you Railway Labor Act of 1926. It's actually not all bad, but it does put railway and airline workers in a different class. It all depends on how the National Mediation Board is feeling that day.

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

Been that way forever. Parking brake release with door closed was the standard for a long time. Now they have parking systems on the terminal that sense the aircraft and don’t start the clock until the aircraft pushes back, and stop the clock as soon as it’s parked even if you’re sitting there for 30 minutes waiting for the jet bridge or whatever.

[-] Obi@sopuli.xyz 3 points 5 months ago

Yeah but they also used to have a good enough pay that it was still an okay deal, even if the clock only ran during aircraft movement. It's still the case with other airlines I have an old friend that went to work for Etihad and he seems to be doing fine. Tells me about the nice weekends away all over the world during rest time, lives in a nice apartment in Dubai with a view, etc. Granted I'd never want to live there but I'm sure you can achieve similar lifestyle with other international airlines (Singapore, KLM, etc etc).

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[-] Badeendje@lemmy.world 89 points 6 months ago

If your boss requires you to be somewhere at a specific time.. then that is work .. right?

And being on the other end means you are still at work. It is strange that this job went from glamorous to real shit.

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 84 points 6 months ago

It is strange that this job went from glamorous to real shit.

You had a government mandated floor on prices until the 70's in the USA and the 90's in the EU, which meant that airlines had to compete on amenities and other ways to pull traffic to their airline. Once that price floor was removed, it became apparent that ticket prices were what drove most traffic, so airlines started doing whatever they could to drop ticket prices.

[-] Badeendje@lemmy.world 23 points 6 months ago

Nice write up, thanks. TIL.

[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 75 points 6 months ago

I hope the unions give these bastards a nice, swift kick in the ass.

If anyone should be taking a pay cut, it's the shitty CEO's whose decisions make flying a miserable experience.

[-] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 35 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

If this were in a free country, sure. But these unions need government permission to strike.

[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago

I didn't know that.

Ain't that a fucking bitch.

[-] Woozythebear@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

Welcome to "democracy"

[-] TomMasz@kbin.social 55 points 6 months ago

Nobody wants to work anymore.

[-] elbarto777@lemmy.world 25 points 6 months ago

"Nobody wants to work anymore."

[-] Rolando@lemmy.world 44 points 6 months ago

I haven't flown in a while, have they already started asking us to tip flight attendants?

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago

Remember, they're the ones that close the doors (or don't)!

[-] ramchak@lemmy.ca 22 points 6 months ago

Yeah, but it is Boeing that decides if it stays closed

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[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 26 points 6 months ago

guys does making airline workers unable to afford life make passengers less safe?

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 18 points 6 months ago

they are only set to warn little more than $27,000 per year before tax.

I know that writing is hard, especially when using AI, but please proof read your posts?

[-] LwL@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

Oh no, a typo from hitting a key right next to the intended key, this has never happened in the history of journalism!

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

Not only that, the the typo is a legitimate word, meaning it won't be flagged by spell check. HOWEVER, that's no excuse to not proofread a submitted article. In fact, it's more reason why one should.

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[-] NotSpez@lemm.ee 18 points 6 months ago

Time to unionize, I think.

[-] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago

They are already

[-] Rooki@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Thats has to be from the onion! ( I hope at least )

[-] Ozymati@lemmy.nz 10 points 6 months ago

But tHe inVisIbLe haNd

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