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[-] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 35 points 1 month ago

This sort of story is dumb. Is that really the reason you wouldn't vote for someone? There must be more compelling points. So who is this for?

I think it's just circle-jerky "the team I hate also smells icky" stuff, like when Alex Jones said Obama and Hillary literally smelled like sulfur.

Okay, but think about the person who would vote for him because he's powerful, won't succumb to that prissy woke-ism, etc.

Like it or not, but people vote on vibes all the time, and thinking he's a cool guy who will drain the swamp (by cutting welfare and social programs) is better for him than being kind of a smelly loser. It undercuts the strongman narrative that Republicans are selling.

[-] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 45 points 1 month ago

It is a valid line of inquiry if you consider that not taking care of basic personal hygiene is a symptom of mental incompetence. We do not want to elect a mentally incompetent leader. By all visible evidence, the man has working arms and hands that should presumably be able to reach to wash himself. So if he goes around smelling like a toilet dumpster then something is mentally wrong there.

Of course there have been numerous other indications of such issues beyond the reports of stench.

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[-] Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Indirectly, it's a strong indictment of Trump's mental health. A politician's strongest weapon (and a conman's, which he also is) is their image, and Trump knows it. If he's letting himself go to the extent that his odor deserves note, then you can be assured that he's let go of everything else that he considers less important than his image (i.e. everything else that exists) at least as much as he's let go of his hygiene, probably more.

The Donald J. Trump that debated Biden was a bad choice for a set of reasons that did not include becoming incapable of caring for the most important thing in his life. The current DJT has added that reason to the list.

[-] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

I think it's more indicative that he doesn't listen to or care about the opinions or feelings of anybody around him, which is a bad quality in a leader unless you want your country run by a despot. Mao never brushed his teeth and reportedly had breath that could raise the dead.

[-] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago

I mean I get what you're saying but... If someone can't manage their own personal hygiene, especially with all the resources in the world, how in hell can they manage a country?

[-] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 33 points 1 month ago

I mean if the felonies didn't change your mind... Maybe the smell will? XD

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[-] blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 month ago

If a person cannot accept the reality of hygeine and cannot take criticism, they are unfit to lead.

[-] ZoopZeZoop@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

It is dumb, and not the reason anyone should not vote for him. That said, someone who foreign leaders don't want to be in a room with could present a problem.

I hope this article doesn't convince people, but instead they are convinced by the many, many others showing he is criminal and selfish. It is somewhat satisfying to have someone you really dislike have other undesirable qualities.

[-] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago

Another way to think about it, at some point even at McDonald's you'd get fired for poor hygiene if you constantly showed up to work smelling awful. That standard should especially apply to a diplomatic role in government.

But yeah, this is bottom tier reason not to elect him.

[-] crank0271@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

I imagine that inciting a treasonous insurrection would also be grounds for termination even at McDonald's.

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 9 points 1 month ago

In absolute terms, it would be a great reason not to elect him. In relative terms, he's so awful that it's very far down the list of reasons he's unfit to serve.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

This is the going low we’ve spent a decade arguing over. Well informed voters with strong morals are all either voting dem or holding out for the Dems to go left. This is us appealing to the common jackass who voted on vibes and thinks strength is more important than policy. The people who think strongman is a compliment. We aren’t even caring if they vote dem, we’re trying to kill their enthusiasm to vote for trump. Because appealing to Americans better nature didn’t work

[-] jhymesba@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

In 2016, up to Election day, I was reasonably confident Clinton would win. I didn't like her, and I thought she was too right-wing, but the other side was objectively terrible and filled with awful people. I betted on American decency...and lost.

This year? If it takes saying the shitgibbon literally smells like shit to convince people to not vote for him, then let's start pointing out the shitgibbon actually smells like shit (and other unsavoury stuff).

[-] lurch@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 month ago

If elected, he represents you and your country internationally. This could have an impact on negotiations etc. Maybe not with leaders who prefer to sit on the other end of an insanely long table though.

[-] paddirn@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

Part of me agrees and wishes our politics could be more elevated than this, but American democracy is at the point where we're banking on a Taylor Swift endorsement to save us from literal fascists from taking over. That's where we're at.

[-] Sweetpeaches69@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

You have to remember, anyone voting for Trump is fucking stupid as hell; it might actually work on them.

[-] EnderWiggin@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

It's unfortunately how you win these days. Campaigns in the past tried to take the high road when Trump went low. That doesn't work. So this is what we get.

[-] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

you're getting voted down, but yeah, "taking the high road" didn't do shit, so here we are.

[-] EnderWiggin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Highly recommend folks check out the podcast Behind the Bastard's episodes "How The Liberal Media Helped Fascism Win" for more information on this topic.

[-] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I'll add to my list, thanks.

[-] Jax@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

No, I don't think stories like this have anything to do with trying to convince voters to not vote for Trump because he smells bad. There's a pretty strong smear campaign going against him right now, and he doesn't realize that he's the critical piece to the campaigns success. Every time he insists that he isn't weird, or insists that he doesn't smell, suddenly half of the shit that he's talking about ends up being trying to defend his image on the public stage. The reason that silly little things like "he smells like ass, ketchup, makeup, w.e" are actually important right now is that Trump might see it. Someone related to Trump might see it, and suddenly the thought is living rent free in their brain.

Trump can't help himself, he has to respond. What kind of strong leader spends all their time whining about what other people are saying? He could smell like a fucking dumpster as long as he leads the country correctly, no?

Not only that, if they aren't Trump, they could probably make money off of interviews about whatever other weird shit surrounds Trump. It's a strategy that makes them (Magats and Trump) start to point fingers at one another, and honestly that's exactly what needs to happen if we want to prevent a conservative win in November.

[-] zeppo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Smear campaign? He is and always has been the smear. The dude is incredibly vile in every way possible and always has been.

[-] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 8 points 1 month ago

You know, first he grabbed by the pussy, and I said alright. Then he stole nuclear secrets for the Russians, and I was that’s ok. Then he attempted a coup, and I still didn’t care. But now… oh now he’s gone too far! He stinks! I can’t vote for a smelly guy!

[-] barsquid@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

This is dumb and odor shouldn't be anyone's last straw with Donald, but I'll take whatever we can get.

You have to at least agree that this one seems to be backed by evidence, and differs from Alex Jones's bullshit on at least that.

[-] negativeyoda@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

It's the journalistic version of junk food.

That said, I can't imagine he smells good. It makes the thought of Laura Loomer blowing him that much grosser

[-] Xenny@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Bro if he can't even take care of himself how do you think he will take care of us?

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

One is weird shit based on fairy tales that is obviously made up. The other is entirely plausible and consistent with other reports I've read about how he smells. It may be frivolous but it's not the same.

Also we're talking about someone who would be expected to meet world leaders and other noteworthy people in person on a regular basis. If he's physically disgusting, that's a very bad look for all of us.

[-] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

If true, it could indicate some sort of mental decline, basic hygiene around coworkers is expected when you're competing in one of the largest popularity contests in the world.

[-] capital@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

It's gonna piss Trump off so I'm cool.

[-] JustZ@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

You know doesn't smell like shit?

Kamala Harris. Can tell with your eyes she smells amazing.

[-] zeppo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Jones is a deranged liar though. It’s far more believable that Trump has poor hygiene than his histrionic idiocy about Obama.

[-] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

For many, yes - this kind of thing is a reason not to vote for someone where open fascism is a non-event. It's dumb, but it (kinda) works.

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