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Project 2025 chief’s book urges ‘burning’ of FBI, New York Times and Boy Scouts
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He hates the Boy Scouts and BlackRock? But is also super right-wing? Who is this guy?
The boy scouts one is especially baffling. A lot of boys become more traditionally "manly" through boy scouts. It is physically active and they typically learn skills like camping, fire starting, wood working. We were also expected to do good deeds, be polite, and overall be decent members of society that help where is needed, such as litter clean ups and tree plantings. I guess the latter half of my point is where their issues start?
Maybe because they now allow girls to participate. Integration is "woke" and must be destroyed.
I didn't know that part. I thought conservatives hate them because they now allow gay leaders after being sued to pieces over it. Also didn't they crack down on pedophiles in the organization? That is the number one pastime of conservative men.
Lol. They didn't get sued to pieces because their leaders were gay, it was because some of them were pedophiles.
Nobody sued them over gay leaders.
They got sued by parents over not doing anything about pedos, AND got sued by prospective leaders because they were being prevented from joining over their sexual orientation.
Bill wanted to be a scoutmaster since he grew up with scouts, but since he was gay, he was not allowed. He then sued the organization over it. (idk names, that's just for clarity)
I obviously meant that they were sued for NOT allowing gay leaders and I think even scouts themselves. Google it if you care. Conservatives don't like that they changed the policy on gays.
I would bet that this is the correct answer.
They are changing the name to just "Scouts" to reflect this. And is 100% why these assholes have an issue with them now.
Wikipedia: BSA
Edit a word =(
If they are the Boy Scouts and allow girls to participate then this looks to be the start of a trans joke.
Both of them are pretty baffling. Because you're right about the Boy Scouts, but also, BlackRock is basically a Republican dream company.
Because he's attacking all institutions that have some sort of control he wants. The wide net just feeds into the deep state narrative and he needs to capitalize on that right now
Kids, healthcare, education, private equity etc.. that's how you make a dictatorship.
See it this way, BlackRock has enough power to do to the republican party what the republican party is doing to the gov. They need all of that gone to become megalomaniac authoritarians.
If I wanted to become Bill Gates, and make my own Microsoft, i first have to outlaw bill gates and Microsoft.
I think this is right, but I would add there's a chance this all ends up being for show and BlackRock makes some public show of fealty to the Trumpists that makes them look powerful and gets BlackRock some government contracts down the line. Like, hypocrisy is no barrier for the right wing, they're fully capable of writing a whole novel about (e.g.) how we must destroy Google and then turning around and buying a bunch of shit from them.
Did you just accidentally almost coin the term "magalomaniac"?
Coined and minted.
If they already have that much power, it would make more sense to stay on their good side, at least for now, wouldn't it?
Now is the time to scare them at least, and if there's any time to have them on the bad side it's now. See who kneels and who doesn't imo.
They have the upper hand now, if MAGA is firmly in control of the government, they can dismantle Blackrock in a month.
What? How?
This kind of ignorance is what is most upsetting to me... People just do not seem to be able to grasp the totality of authoritarian rule. I understand why, there is nothing in recent memory even close to this to compare.
But we have really failed our students by not drilling home just how insidious fascism is. Under fascism, corporations become another arm of the government to be used however the singular leader sees fit. Or they get eliminated.
I'm asking, practically speaking, how will the Trumpers dismantle BlackRock inside of 1 month?
Executions? In ~2 months, we will be giving one singular man the power to wield the federal government as a weapon against anyone who doesn't bend the knee (or really for any, or no, reason whatsoever. And this is a very petty man). I don't know if it's going to be in under a month, but we have historical examples to look to. This has happened before.
BlackRock is the largest hedge fund in the world, and in history, by market cap. What are the historical examples in which a financial firm or institution has been "dismantled", by a government inside of one month?
Merrill Lynch and Lehman Brothers don't count because they declared bankruptcy, which means they "dismantled" themselves.
Your language is very vague.
There are multiple ways that can happen.
For example, if you look at recent history in China, Jack Ma, the executive chairman of the Alibaba group, gave a speech on October 24, 2020. The IPO of his current venture was then blocked by regulators a few weeks later, he stepped down from the board of Alibaba, and he was not seen again for four months. He denied the state had anything to do with his disappearance, but ever since he lived a quiet life and never criticised the Chinese leadership again.
If you look at Russia, in the October Revolution, the largest Russian bank was occupied by an armed Bolshevik detachment on day one. The bank was nationalized the same day, and it then ceased to exist altogether. No banks existed in the country for five-ish years after that.
Or Cuba, when Castro nationalized all assets of United Fruit when he took power.
Point is, since they own the justice system, they can do sham trials against the CEO and get someone like Jared Kushner elected by the board if they don't also want to go to jail on trumped-up charges (pun intended). Or since they own the legislative, they can just nationalize the whole thing, wipe out shareholders without compensating them at all.
Almost all of these would result in a lot of economic damage, but the question is whether Trump or the Project 2025 people care. I mean, look at Twitter. Trump can at the very least make the federal government do to Blackrock what Musk did to Twitter.
The keys to GAINING power are not the same keys needed to KEEP power.
They gained the power (or will in a few months)
Now they need to keep it.
If one of the keys needed to get it could potentially turn on you, it's better for your regime to eliminate them as soon as possible after taking power.
For a better explanation, CGP GREY has a video about rules for rulers, which clears things up quite well: https://youtu.be/rStL7niR7gs
Blackrock is woke
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jonmcgowan/2023/06/05/conservative-outrage-over-esg-and-dei-fueled-by-2017-blackrock-ceo-video/
I guess the Boy Scouts are "woke" now too since they dared to allow gay scouts and girls rather than fold because they were not making enough revenue.
If it's not hateful and white it doesn't represent conservative values, in other words, woke
Come to think of it, BlackRock occasionally allows people a shade darker than peach rent their properties too.
That's radical wokeism
I could see the blackrock angle as trying to appease the working class. Like "see we hate big wealth too" but then never actually do anything to hurt blackrock.
I think the issue started a little over a decade ago, when the Boy Scouts got in some hot water for discriminating against gay kids and they actually tried to be better.
Maybe it is because of this: https://www.reuters.com/legal/us-supreme-court-lets-246-billion-boy-scouts-sex-abuse-settlement-proceed-2024-02-22/
So are they going to condemn the church as well?
My mother in law has a book about “Woke Jesus”, and I know some churches have had issues because the parishioners think Jesus was a wuss.
"My Jesus can kick your Jesus' ass!" is the most American thing someone could say
They call that "woke".
Edit - oh whoops, didn't mean to just steal that right out of @stovetop@lemmy.world 's mouth.
Not to mention many troops still have an emphasis on Christianity. Though it's slightly less mandatory than it used to be.
...Let them fight, I guess?
A scout’s job is to gather facts and information, and report back so that an army can make informed decisions.
Can’t imagine why a right-wing extremist would be afraid of an organization that teaches those skills to kids.
Maybe wants to turn the boy scouts into a new hitler youth or make way for it
Didn’t the Boy Scouts recently started admitting girls and calling itself Scouts?
Yes, but only because they would have gone bankrupt if they didn't. It was out of sheer desperation.
Somehow people were less willing to send enough boys to an organization that had become super religious and was already trying to live down the sexual abuse scandal that had been going on for decades.
Oh I don’t doubt that one bit. But I can see how the Magat would think it has “gone woke”.