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[–] kubica@fedia.io 62 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

And then feel guilty for wasting so much water.

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 42 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (6 children)

I want to nitpick the definition of “waste” for a moment. Yes, you are using a lot of water, and energy if the water is heated, BUT if you’re getting something remotely positive out of it (and you’re paying for it), then I would not consider it wasteful. If you genuinely want to label it as something, then let’s compromise and call it therapeutic. Deal?

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 28 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Unless you're in California or any other area with a low water table. Then it's a huge issue.

[–] Beetschnapps@lemmy.world 42 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

Compare this person’s shower to the many farms growing almonds in the same state.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 weeks ago

Just abolished a bag this morning.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 weeks ago

You are right

At the same time

I can’t whataboutism limited resources

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

If I was Governor of California I'd push to make it so Almonds and Alfalfa can't be grown during the drought seasons.

I can live without a legume and I don't think I know a single person in my entire circle's circles who has eaten alfalfa.

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The alfalfa isn't for humans, it's for high intensity dairy and cattle farming.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 weeks ago

It sucks that this is practically occult information. People have no understanding of the damage they do.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago

Yup, it’s just beef, cheese and milk. Though if you can find them without e.coli their sprouts are good on sandwiches too.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 15 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

You must also consider the externalities, not just the financial cost that you bear personally.

[–] kubica@fedia.io 10 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I'd like to see it that way, but fresh water scarcity is a growing problem in many areas.

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 26 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I have to wonder how much impact people taking 30-minute showers would have compared to corporate [mis]use.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago

Corporate waste massively overshadows personal use.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Then we should take it from companies that use it to cool AI super computers, mass surveillance networks, grow the worst water to plant ratio crops possible.

You could take a shower for 4 hours and it wouldn't make a dent to the misuse by corporations.

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

I saw an ad from Esso that said you can reduce gas usage by emptying out your trunk!

it's what would be described as "sub optimal use of a finite costly resource"

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world -1 points 3 weeks ago

This is Lemmy, if you use water to water a plant, it never goes anywhere, it disappears entirely and there is no wider system that the water might become a part of, and if you eat an almond you've literally used all the water a city would use in a year.

[–] thenextguy@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I mitigate it by brushing my teeth in there.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I used a buddy's shower once, toothbrush was in there. I told him that was a great idea, really works to get the dingleberries off my asshole hair.

[–] brap@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Hell yeah brother. Thought I was alone there.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Get a mirror, shave and pee in there too. Does help justify those long shower a little.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago

I shave in the shower without a mirror or shaving cream. With a straight razor.

[–] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Lowtechmagazine wrote an excellent article about decadent mist showers that use many small nozzles spraying very fine mist particle sizes water on you as a much more efficient way to use water for showers. I would love to install and try out something like that one day.

[–] Glifted@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Some of us live where a majority or the earth's fresh water supply is. Water shortages tend to be localized