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[-] BURN@lemmy.world 237 points 1 year ago

I definitely see this as “we can’t get away with the boys club anymore” rather than a problem with Gen Z. Gen Z won’t hide their unhappiness with any of the -isms and will call it out instead of just keeping their head down.

[-] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 112 points 1 year ago

Right, it’s not the lack of skills to disagree. What it is, is the bravery to not tolerate intolerance, and they stand for what they believe the world should be. Making mr grouper proud out here.

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[-] SighBapanada@lemmy.ca 60 points 1 year ago

I'm a millennial but this reminds me of when I first got into the work force and was stuck in an office full of boomers with me being the youngest. I remember the boss would take turns taking shots at different people during meetings, making insensitive racial jokes about people. I eventually got tired of doing the uncomfortable fake laugh so I just sat there stone faced during his jokes. He halted the entire meeting to a stop to ask me why I wasn't laughing. This is the extent to which office culture must be obeyed and how insecure they get when you don't go along with it. It's so pathetic.

[-] sara@lemmy.today 28 points 1 year ago

I’m also a millennial with a similar experience in my first job in 2004 or 2005, except instead of racial jokes, it was jokes about boobs, sexist rumors about another coworker moonlighting as a stripper, unwanted touching, etc, and when I reported it, I was told to “grow up” by my supervisor.

[-] SighBapanada@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 year ago

Ohhh yeah, there was that too, I can definitely recall one of my male managers making comments about a woman's body when she wasn't in the room. So gross.

[-] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"YoU CaNT sAy AnYtHiNg AnYMoRe"

"How am I supposed to compliment a woman these days?"

It's the same boomers that make those complaints whining about Gen Z

[-] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 year ago

This is exactly it. I've seen this exact thing play out a bunch of times. It's a real threat to them, because so many of these people got to where they are because they know how to work that frat boy culture to their advantage, and now they suddenly have to deal with people who don't find their shit funny. The reality is that they don't actually have any real skills besides the politics of being loud and borish.

The thing is, if you say "black lives matter" they'll quietly run to HR and claim they don't feel comfortable and they don't want politics in the workplace. Then they'll turn right around and go back to talking fondly about their date rape days at Cornell

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[-] PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 147 points 1 year ago

I read this as Gen Z doesn’t tolerate the boomer/older Gen X intolerant/racist/sexist/homophobic/transphobic bullshit that younger Gen X/Older Millennials had to, and a lot of folks receiving this deserved pushback don’t like it.

¯\(ツ)

[-] sailingbythelee@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nailed it, except that older Gen X and boomers who weren't part of the intolerant majority ALSO had to put up with all that bullshit.

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[-] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 101 points 1 year ago

I hate these generation based things. Some little time ago there was odd stuff about millennials everywhere. Now Gen-Z. In a few years Gen Alpha. Then whatever comes next and so on.

People just like to label people. And generations are just another option.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm Gen X. They used to say this stuff about us too. Did you know we're all slackers?

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[-] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 82 points 1 year ago

No, it's more that the boomers/older Gen X treats any sign of even polite disagreement as attacks on their very character. Many of them simply cannot accept that their views are outdated, and any challenges to their view is a disrespectful slight.

It's very telling that many of them still complain about millennials as children ruining everything to this day, when the oldest millennials are in their early 40s, and they are somehow shocked that Gen Z is even more progressive and vocal about their views than us millennials.

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[-] febra@lemmy.world 71 points 1 year ago

Look, I don't care at all what views my coworkers might possess. And that's the problem. Because when one of these fuckwits starts going on a bigoted rant at work, I do NOT want to hear it, and I surely don't give a damn about it. So yeah, no, we can't work alongside fuckwits. If they knew how to shut up, we could.

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Alternative headline: boomers* don’t have the skills to know what is or is not an appropriate work conversation to have.

*I’m aware many boomers do have this skill, just matching the ignorant and overly broad style of the original statement.

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[-] weeeeum@lemmy.world 67 points 1 year ago

Honestly this isn't a gen z thing, it's just a shit article thing. 70% of this piece is just this one fucking guy bitching about the "kids these days"

[-] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ya, my boss is someone who always makes it about generation this and generation that.

It's not about generations, if baby boomers had the technology we have today they'd have done the same stupid shit.

[-] Scrof@sopuli.xyz 64 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Let me paraphrase: Gen Z refuse to take any bullshit from deluded boomers.

[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 55 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Welp, Gen Z, it's your time in the furnace I guess.

I remember when "Millennials are ruining everything" articles were the fodder for lazy writers, now it's crap like this.

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I remember when we killed Applebee's? That was a fun weekend.

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[-] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 48 points 1 year ago

We just reposting the same things from 10 years ago with “millennials” replaced by “gen z?”

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

Shut up you ~~millennial~~ gen z snowflake! You’ll take the recycled content and enjoy it

/s, if it wasn’t obvious….I’m noting that same trend myself.

[-] ComradeChairmanKGB@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 year ago

Gen Z are ruining the recycled content industry!

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[-] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 41 points 1 year ago

Or maybe it's because they have zero patience for people who can't understand the idea of basic human rights?

[-] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

I ain't gonna give any weight to a freaking anecdote from any one, let alone a manager. Show me the proof or sit down.

[-] sebinspace@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Personally I’m just not fond of working with geriatric, lead-poisoned nazis but that’s just me.

[-] sndmn@lemmy.ca 32 points 1 year ago

Let me guess. The "different views" are bigotry, hatred and fascism?

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[-] mojo@lemm.ee 31 points 1 year ago

Some guy says some thing. This is no different from an out of touch boomer saying kids these days don't want to work.

[-] SeaJ@lemm.ee 29 points 1 year ago

I'm guessing someone got called out for being a right wing shit head and now his poor little feelings are hurt.

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[-] blueeggsandyam@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

Gen Z seem to lack the skillset to know their place. -boomer boss

[-] deft@ttrpg.network 28 points 1 year ago

nah never had that issue and I'm pretty fuckin opinionated. As a chef I argue more with old heads than gen z or millennials.

old fuckers think they know everything

[-] Colour_me_triggered@lemm.ee 24 points 1 year ago

Interesting way of saying "they won't bend over and spread their arse cheeks".

[-] centof@lemm.ee 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Meanwhile said CEO is the one that intentionally promotes 'clueless' people (Read overtly offensive) people as leaders and then paints the workers that are coerced to humor them as in the wrong when they don't put up with it.

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[-] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I'll just say if I'm working, I just don't wanna hear politics brought up at all. I'd rather focus on work or maybe small talk. I don't wanna end up in a scenario where I expose my political views only to find I've made enemies with the wrong people in a company or group.

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[-] spittingimage@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

Everyone in this thread is jumping to the conclusion that it's about politics, race, etc.

Meanwhile here's me wishing the office Zoomer would shut up about the way I drink my coffee.

[-] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago

Sounds like you haven't got the skills to disagree.

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[-] mangosloth@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Maybe there's a degree of truth to this, but the issue doesn't only apply to Gen Z... I've had plenty of overgrown children in their 40s and 50s lose their shit in the workplace when the slightest bit of pushback comes up about anything. I'd say this is more of a general communication skills problem these days

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Out of all the Gen Z bashing headlines I've ever seen... this is the only one I am inclined to agree with. It doesn't even have to be a politically motivated disagreement; I've met too many young people that once you disagree with them on something, try to completely avoid talking to you and also do not take criticism of any kind well.

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[-] eronth@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Uh, that's because the different views are fucking wild bad, and they're not just putting up with it.

[-] tinkeringidiot@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Eh, this generational conflict stuff is nonsense. For years I’ve run teams of boomers, X, Y, and now Z. Have I had to punt some younger folks because they couldn’t work past some not-work-relevant difference with someone else in the office? Sure. But that’s not a Z thing at all.

Anyone who can’t check their personal baggage at the door and get work done as part of a team ends up being shown to the sidewalk. There’s no generational component to this, it’s happening to everyone of all ages.

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