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[–] smeg@feddit.uk 125 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The rest of the article is mildly interesting, but if you just took the bait from the headline:

On a technical level, Xbox One is essentially a PC using a heavily modified version of Windows, and this software simply translates native Xbox applications into a form that can run on standard Windows PCs

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

So...software emulation...kinda. I guess translation technically. Whatever lol.

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[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 53 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (6 children)

Nobody was missing out on anything. All of 343s Halo games have been garbage, but Halo 5 takes the garbage cake home.

The translation layer is awesome for every other game though.

[–] simple@lemm.ee 21 points 9 months ago

Yeah there's a reason there hasn't been much interested in Xbone emulation, almost everything worth emulating has gotten PC ports over the years or is also on PS3 which does have a good emulator. Maybe if Sunset Overdrive was still a console exclusive I'd bother, but I guess this is cool for some peeps.

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 20 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Halo 5 had a lot of problems. Bit it's a damned masterpiece compared to Infinite.

Halo 5 had great gunplay, Warzone Firefight was a blast, the Guardians were a great stand-in for the Halo rings, Cortana was an intimidating enemy by the end of the game, the lootboxes were actually better than the armor cores and marketplace from Infinite.

There are A LOT of negatives in there too. But a lot of positives. Infinite is just a shitshow from the beginning.

[–] BestTestInTheWest@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago (9 children)

Do people not like infinite? A mate and I are playing coop currently and I'm really enjoying it.

[–] maxenmajs@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

It's in a more or less acceptable state now and I play it, but it sure doesn't live up to the original 10 year live service promise.

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

I have a lot of problems with it. Between the "story" and the copy-paste map. I would rather the game didn't exist, because at least then they could make a follow up to 5's end.

I really don't want to spoil your fun if you're enjoying it though. A lot of the gameplay elements are fun to play around with.

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[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Them just retconning Cortana was such a letdown. Honestly while 5 wasn't great, it did set up infinite to be really really good. Then they went with a really boring alternative.

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This is my biggest complaint. Halo 6 was set up to be an amazing game. Then Infinite ended up with zero story. The most interesting stuff in Infinite were the little flashback sequences that bridge 5 to Infinite.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 2 points 9 months ago

You can really tell that campaign took a back seat in the game. A shame because the open world was honestly a lot of fun, it was just empty and hollow because of such of a lame story. You could have been jumping between worlds fighting Cortana for the survival of the human race. Instead.... we're lost on a ring again, and we're fighting a brute guy we don't care about, while desperate for any actual story about what the hell happened

[–] PraiseTheSoup@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Halo 5 is still the worst Halo game.

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I STRONGLY disagree. 5 was a letdown with some bright spots. Infinite is offensively bad with no redeeming value.

Even if you remove Infinite, 5's combat is better than 4's in every single way. I would split second worst between those two depending on what aspects you're comparing.

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[–] curry@programming.dev 14 points 9 months ago

It's still important for video game preservation, no matter how crappy the games themselves might be.

[–] TrustedTyrant@lemm.ee 6 points 9 months ago

Forza horizon 2 is the only game I can think of that I would use this for.

[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I was a big LAN player in the heyday of the original, even got through 4.

That trash game came with the xbone I bought for my wife and I still couldn’t play it.

[–] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I couldn't get through Halo 4's campaign when it was released as part of the MCC, nor was I able to get though Halo Infinite's (it wasn't bad, just... meh; nowhere near as good as the Bungie campaigns but not trash either, just not as good). I would still like the option to play Halo 5 on PC just so I have the ability to play the main campaign, plus I've heard it's the best multiplayer Halo? But yeah. Even if I never actually play it, it's nice to have the option.

On a tangential note, I think 343's Halo games would have been considered good if it wasn't for Bungie's Halo. I don't think their campaigns are honestly bad, per se (though again, haven't tried to play H5), they're just bad in comparison to the "OG" games.

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[–] mox@lemmy.sdf.org 31 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

chuckle

Author apparently thinks hardware emulation is the only kind of emulation.

[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 48 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Wine is not an Emulator is not an emulator.

[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Gnu's Not Unix Image Manipulation Program

[–] Redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 9 months ago

personal homepage hypertext preprocessor hypertext preprocessor

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 23 points 9 months ago (1 children)

API wrappers are not emulators.

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[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 21 points 9 months ago (2 children)

They are, however, accomplishing the same thing as emulators, just with a different strategy.

[–] yamanii@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

And I feel the hardware requirements end up way lower, when I had a bad PC I could play Burnout Revenge at full speed on the 360 emulator, but the PS2 version ran like a turtle.

[–] tiddy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago

A screwdriver can be a hammer if you're determined enough

[–] yamanii@lemmy.world 20 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I can't wait to play the proper Forza Horizon 2, and Crash Team Racing, curse you Activision for not bringing this one to PC!

[–] MazonnaCara89@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 months ago

I don't know which one of the ctr games you are referring too, but you might be interested about this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCwSkmAp7f8, there is an effort from ctr community to port the ps1 game on pc

[–] stardust@lemmy.ca 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Hopefully I'll get to finally play Gears of War 2.

[–] Blxter@lemmy.zip 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Yes been wanting to play the og gears again for years now on PC I want a gears style MCC so bad

[–] ABCDE@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Isn't it all on game pass?

[–] Blxter@lemmy.zip 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Maybe (probably) but I don't want to play it via gamepass

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's already out isn't it? Remastered and everything.

[–] Blxter@lemmy.zip 1 points 9 months ago

The first is apparently remastered on the Xbox store for PC I had no idea tbh never used the Xbox store on PC.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Well, of course not, because Wine Is Not an Emulator. Considering it's called XWine1, would there be a Linux version too?

[–] ATDA@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

I think that's called proton (jokes aside yes I know steam wouldn't do that for obvious legal implications.)

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Why would they, Xbox uses a version Windows and an x86 core + AMD GPU, bog standard parts, bog standard system, it's easier to tap into the windows component on an x86 system and just use that to run the games. Making a proper emulator for games that would otherwise run on the PC natively just wouldn't make sense.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 9 months ago

I think this will become true for a lot of the new gen systems in the future (starting from xbox1).
Same for PS4 maybe running easier on OpenBSD/Unix-like systems by having a similar kernel.

Will certainly be interesting!

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