Give me the $100 first (completely and irrevocably non-retractable). After I (in my sole judgement and by my sole timeline) am 100% convinced it's mine, then I'll sign.
Isn't that fucking illegal?
If it were for actual votes, yes. But this is money for signing that a petition a PAC Musk runs has created.
To all those wondering how this is legal: nowhere does it ask people to vote for Trump. The petition asks people to pledge their support for the Constitution, free speech, and the 2nd Amendment. Signing it does not indicate you are voting for Trump. But I could absolutely see the signatures being used for propaganda.
Shit sign me up! If Trump wins I get 100 dollars if he loses I get 100 dollars.
This is showing how desperate they are which maybe they know something about Trump’s chances to avoid prison.
can we sign up, take his money, and vote Harris?
if a million people do this it adds up fast
The petition is saying you support free speech, the second amendment, and the Constitution. You can certainly support all of those and vote for Harris.
That might make it easier for him to claim election fraud. He might try to argue about how the election results don't match with the number of people who took his money.
Good thing it’s not a legal document and doesn’t prove any intent whatsoever.
Such a dumb argument but MAGA would 100% believe it and dash their lives against the US government to make it true.
pretty fucking close to vote buying if you ask me
I’ll take his money and then not vote for Trump. It’s not like he can tell.
Honestly, I kinda hope he can tell. I'd love for there to be a paper trail of me accepting $100 from Elon and then voting for Harris. Hell, I'd put the money toward renting a highway billboard as close to the Tesla HQ as possible showing the receipts. Fuck him.
Get the money, donate to Harris
Highly doubt Musk will pay, also hilarious that the reason is "to protect constitutional rights" when the person who he is endorsing has 0 integrity for that asides for freedom of his own speech...
The term you're looking for is bribery.
The term is actually "electioneering." And, he's getting close to the illegal kind.
$100 ehh, I guess cards against humanity did get to him :D
the guy who famously never pays his vendors or his rent until he gets evicted is promising to send money?
wow sign me up...
and this is lawful? actually legal? What the hell is USA??
Rome 2.0
It's legal because they're paying for registrations not votes, you can't see who someone voted for just that they voted and if they registered as a party member or independent.
It's actually explicitly illegal to pay to get people to register to vote.
You're right I'll withdraw that, the law states to vote, withhold vote, vote for a candidate, or vote against a candidate
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/597
Because the musk giveaway requires registration to be eligible makes it illegal, compared to the cards against humanity PAC as they are not saying they are only paying after confirming a registration or vote. Cah wants 3 things none of those are a check on registration or voting.
Jesus titty-fucking Christ. If someone like George Soros were paying people to vote for Harris, right-wingers would be losing their collective shit and flinging it at the moon.
The double standard is amazing.
They don't care about truth, or consistency. They care about power. Specifically, the power of their in-group.
Conservatism has been aptly summarized as "There must be in-groups for the law to protect but not bind, and out-groups for the law to bind but not protect." That's pretty much the whole thing. Conservatives are, in a kind of fundamental way, bad people. They value the in-group far too much.
I thought I remembered Michael Moore buying ramen and stuff to get students out to vote and he got in trouble for that. https://www.acslaw.org/?post_type=acsblog&p=1035
Turns out it was overturned or ignored, but didn't stop republicans from whining.
…which, at this point, makes it completely predictable.
No water or other assistance for voters in contested areas.
Here’s $100 to say you like trump.
Man, this is a fucked up place.
No, say you like trump, sign this and that, ...
...
...
then maybe, I mean who knows right? Maybe get paid. Donald always pays his debts so why shouldn't his helper do it too?
Right?
I'm going to slap the next person who tells me racism is over and everyone is treated equal.
How the hell is this even LEGAL? This is the state of our country? Really? Blatant bribing? Corruption? And it's STILL a close race?
I really liked this line:
But it’s also possible that Musk is simply doing the rich guy thing—and the classic rich tech guy thing—of walking into a new situation and assuming all of his ideas are important.
What a chud.
You can tell capitalists are getting desperate when they start offering ~~brides~~ ... bribes ... to voters during an election
EDIT: beautiful how a simple typo can grab people's attention so much
Is that an unfortunate typo? Or are they also offering brides alongside monetary bribes?
lol he will never deliver.
I don't know but I think that any minimally civilized country would be a crime... just saying
PS: I forgot that the US isn't a civilized country and they live under a plutocracy of Capital
This shit, 1000%, should be illegal
Jesus fucking Christ literally billionaires buying elections... Will they riot? Of course not because they win with this. If Mark Cuban offered the same thing for Harris there would be blood in the streets and Fox news would be calling for his head after Trumps coronation...
I think this can be used as “evidence” that more people voted for trump than Harris.
For example, elon says that he paid 1000 people for this in a certain district but the vote tallies show that only 500 votes for trump in that area. It would add to the magats incorrect belief that they were cheated. Then the magats would want to start a civil war over it.
I hope I’m wrong.
When he wore a black MAGA hat, he was "dark MAGA". Is this... cheese MAGA?
Welcome to the News community!
Rules:
1. Be civil
Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.
Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.
3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.
Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.
4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.
Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.
5. Only recent news is allowed.
Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.
6. All posts must be news articles.
No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.
7. No duplicate posts.
If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.
8. Misinformation is prohibited.
Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.
9. No link shorteners.
The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.
10. Don't copy entire article in your post body
For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.