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My salary didn't change at all, but homes went up 82%. The money I saved for a down payment and my salary no longer are good enough for this home and many others. This ain't even a "good" home either. It was a 200k meh average ok home before. Now it's simply unaffordable

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[-] Jackthelad@lemmy.world 108 points 4 days ago

You just need to stop watching Netflix and buying avocado toast.

At least that's what old people say anyway.

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 39 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Can confirme. I stopped drinking Starbucks and now I own a 50 acre plot with a 6 bedroom house on it. If only I would have listened to their Facebook comments sooner, I could have afforded that private jet too. Edit: Apparently sarcasm is lost on a few. So for explicitness - /s

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[-] SARGE@startrek.website 20 points 4 days ago

Assuming you spend $10 on avocado toast every day, as well as $75 on eating out for every meal, $20 for Starbucks, and ALSO assuming you have $150 worth of monthly subscriptions:

It will take you 25 years to save one million dollars. That's assuming you never get sick, never lose a job, never need to buy a car or have major repairs, or basically any kind of surprise expense or setback that could wipe out savings.

To be the richest person on earth, you would need to save that money every year for over 6 MILLION YEARS

[-] boonhet@lemm.ee 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Not to devalue your point, but if you truly were spending (10 + 3*75 + 20)*30 + 150 per month (so a total of 7800 USD) and you invest it in an index fund getting back 5%, you'll have your million in 10 years. 8 years at 10% which is the long-term growth rate of DJIA and S&P 500.

You'll still never be the richest person in the world, but if you truly were burning away that much money, you could make decent dough just from investing it passively. In 30 years you'd have like 15 million, more than enough to retire.

Now the only real problem is that nearly nobody is actually burning that much cash and the "stop eating avocado toast" suggestions are indeed stupid af.

[-] sleepmode@lemmy.world 34 points 3 days ago

I like the utility feed hanging off the front of the house going straight through the roof and blocking them from installing the other fake shutter. I wonder what other construction horrors lurk inside.

[-] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 28 points 3 days ago
[-] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Best hurry ... Ozempic is destroying the caloric benefit

[-] socsa@piefed.social 9 points 3 days ago

No rich person is living in a 325k ranch house.

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[-] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 49 points 4 days ago

A lot of boomers are going to die in the next ten years or so. That is the biggest age demographic in the u.s. the population is going to shrink by a lot. That's why there's a push to make people have more kids, because otherwise workers and consumers have a lot more power.

[-] rauls4@lemm.ee 60 points 4 days ago

Private equity is already gobbling up the houses. Boomers are cashing in to finance extravagant retirement. Those who are not, are leaving it to their children who will then sell to private equity groups.

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[-] socsa@piefed.social 12 points 3 days ago

Not that this is "ok" but it's why "buy whatever you can as soon as you can" is good advice. If you'd put whatever you had into a shitty condo four years ago, and kept saving at the same rate, you'd likely be in good position to trade up soon.

I see a lot of people I know end up in the same position because they've been waiting for either the exact right circumstances or for prices to "crash." All the people i know who started with anything they could afford now have a huge amount of equity in nice homes. The difference is real and primarily about timing more than income or location.

[-] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

I think you misunderstand. He didn't have the financial wherewithal to acquire a home of any sort because a down payment was expected even of the shitty condo. He didn't have the money then he doesn't have the money now he's on the same shitty treadmill that the rest of us in the permanent underclass are.

[-] EatATaco@lemm.ee 8 points 3 days ago

I bought 5 years ago when it was still reasonable. I have a great rate on a great house that has increased by about 50% since I bought it.

I don't want to, because this is just about the perfect size house for us in a great location, but I can't really "trade up" as the interest rates are through the roof and everything is more expensive too.

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[-] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago

This is everywhere. I've been looking for houses for 3 months in NW Ohio. 300k is the new 150k, and all the houses are beat to shit on the inside needing 50k just to make them passable inside because nobody takes care of them.

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[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 43 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

A house in Austin

2018: $275,000
2022: $725,000

Those are actual numbers from East Austin. I believe the 2024 market rate is $625,000 but it hasn't changed hands again so I can't say for certain.

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Is this one of the areas where corps are buying up a shitload of real estate?

[-] Godnroc@lemmy.world 146 points 4 days ago

I believe it's on earth, yes.

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 27 points 4 days ago

My moon base is not gaining ANY land value....

[-] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

If it's on Zillow then yes. The trick is to find houses that are not on MLS/Zillow...but realistically there are none. GL! We got ours wnd in one year it went up 40%in a year.

Also in my area that house is a steal and would have offers before it hit Zillow.

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[-] PoTayToes@sh.itjust.works 23 points 4 days ago

Tbh this is more than mildly infuriating...

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[-] Glifted@lemmy.world 34 points 4 days ago

My lucky ass bought a house in late 2019. I'm happy I'm making money on it but this doesn't seem healthy

[-] Fermion@feddit.nl 33 points 4 days ago

You're only making money if you downsize, move somewhere cheaper, or switch back to renting. If you move and all the other houses have gone up, then you just end up having to sink any gained equity into affording your new place. Rising prices really only help developers, realtors, and REIT's.

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[-] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 16 points 4 days ago

This won't change as long as property ownership and property renting is unified. There's just to much of a business incentive from renting, even if it takes decades to make it back. Worst that can happen is that it can sell it back to a market that criminalizes homelessness instead of treating it or its causes.

[-] yessikg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 3 days ago

This is because venture capitalists are buying all the homes to rent

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[-] jj4211@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

So occasionally I look out of curiosity and the reason is pretty plain.

I look for houses for sale in a suburban area as public listings, and there's like 1 within a few square miles of the area.

I switch over to renting, and there's like 12 houses just like the one for sale available, all owned by companies. I also know a coule that aren't listed that have no tenants, but are still owned by one of those companies. You can tell because those yards are now waist deep grasses (in an area where HOA throws a hissy fit if your yard looks just a smidge unkempt).

Don't know why the companies find it more profitable to buy houses people aren't looking to actually move into, at least at the rent they are willing to accept. If I fully understood why, it might just piss me off more. Like maybe the houses work better as a loan basis than other assets, so even empty and unused they are valuable as some sort of financial trick.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

Don’t know why the companies find it more profitable to buy houses people aren’t looking to actually move into, at least at the rent they are willing to accept. If I fully understood why, it might just piss me off more. Like maybe the houses work better as a loan basis than other assets, so even empty and unused they are valuable as some sort of financial trick.

That's one thing, but housing has been a low-risk investment for a long, long time. If they bought the house OP posted in 2020 and sold it in 2024 they would have almost doubled their money even without renting it out.

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[-] w3dd1e@lemm.ee 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

It’s the same in Kansas City. I just checked a random house in my city and it’s up almost $100k in 4 years.

3bd, 1bath 976 sqft

[-] Gingerlegs@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

82%, feel lucky. I bought my house in 2015 for $85k. Last assessment was almost $300k

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[-] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 days ago

A 1200 sqft bungalow near me just sold for 1 million Canadian rubles

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[-] Debs@lemmy.zip 17 points 4 days ago

Being able to buy a $200,000 house in the town I live in would change my life so much.

[-] AstridWipenaugh@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

Yep, that's on track! My house has almost tripled in price since I bought it 12 years ago. Denver metro. No way I could afford it if I had to buy it today.

[-] localhost443@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 3 days ago

Also here in Europe this is the type of construction we use for a garden shed, not a house.

Even when we do modern timber frame, it's generally still brick or block at the bottom. How long do these houses last in the US? I imagine a lot of the continent is pretty humid

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 days ago

It’s a good thing you aren’t a building engineer.

My parents' timber house is from the 1780s and is still solid. So, 240 years at least, give or take. I'm aware of plenty of timber houses from the 1600s that are still standing and functional as well.

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[-] lud@lemm.ee 11 points 4 days ago

Keep in mind that 4 years ago was COVID times when everything was shit.

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago

House prices exploded during Covid. Yeah, they dipped for like 2 weeks initially, but then they skyrocketed.

[-] Xyphius@lemmy.ca 17 points 4 days ago

Friend of mine was saving up for a house 5 years ago. Prices have gone up almost 150%

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[-] curiousaur@reddthat.com 5 points 3 days ago

That's cheap as hell compared to California. And I work remote from anywhere I want. Thanks for the tip!

[-] bitwaba@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

Didn't think I'd ever see Waleska on Lemmy... but, yeah. This is just the story all over North Georgia right? No one wanted to live in the mountains until all of the sudden you could work from anywhere. Now everyone earning city and suburb pay is happy to live an hour farther out than they were before.

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