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[-] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 131 points 1 year ago

3rd party ads lead to the roulette wheel of malware injection. M$ can't even keep the malware links off of their garbage MSN homepage on Edge. This would be an extremely dumb move, and they will do it anyway because it trades off security for money.

[-] simple@lemm.ee 88 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

To the surprise of absolutely nobody. There's no way it was going to be free and have no ads.

Edit: By the way, I don't see many people talking about it but DALL-E 3 was stealthily launched in the new Bing chat update and it's incredibly impressive. By far the best image generation AI in the market right now, and it probably won't be free for long.

[-] bandwidthcrisis@lemmy.world 55 points 1 year ago

Do you think that the next step is product placement?

"Draw a rabbit wearing a top hat."

Produces picture of rabbit, wearing a top hat, sipping a coke.

[-] simple@lemm.ee 34 points 1 year ago

That would be hilariously evil, but I doubt they'd go that far. They'll likely just put an ad in-between every prompt if they decide to go full greed.

[-] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 year ago

Why not both? Why would their greed have a limit like that?

I could see this being a very interesting watermark - the free demo is sponsored by Coke, and all images will prominently feature the product. Upgrade to a paid/business/Enterprise account to get images without the product.

Given how many God-awful advertising patents have already been filed, I really can't see anyone turning down this opportunity. The only reason against it would be a technological limitation- making sure the product isn't featured alongside negative/toxic content. For instance, Hitler yelling at a bunch of homeless orphans (while holding a Coke)

[-] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 7 points 1 year ago

It won't be free for long. MS already announced that it will be moving to a paid service shortly.

[-] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

Wonder if they'll use the Hulu model of "pay us money and still see ads"...

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[-] jay9@lemmy.world 72 points 1 year ago

Geez, ads baked into an OS. What a time to be alive.

[-] throws_lemy@lemmy.nz 18 points 1 year ago

Right? You bought the OS but you still get ads. Even worse, it sends your data to MS servers

[-] FrancisFeliz@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago
[-] the_q@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago

Now is a great time to give Linux a shot. I recommend Pop! OS.

[-] mofongo@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Does pop os also have a copilot?

[-] Massada42@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago

No. However, it also lacks ads.

[-] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 year ago

Double bonus!

[-] kescusay@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

You really, really don't need an AI assistant for regular computer usage. It's a solution in search of a problem.

There are genuinely good reasons to use GitHub Copilot if you're a developer, but otherwise, I think they're way more trouble than they're worth.

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[-] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

No Linux distro has, as M$ hasn't made their AIs open source. But there are people working on open source alternatives.

[-] mofongo@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Ok that sounds awesome do you know any open source copilot projects by chance?

[-] Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago

Theres paid ai .. like this

https://github.com/KillianLucas/open-interpreter

Give commands to chatgpt in the the terminal. Then it executes it. It can generate files, etc as well. Using python iirc.

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[-] wooki@lemmynsfw.com 49 points 1 year ago

Microsoft has outright lost the plot with Windows. Spyware Operating System.

Linux has come a long way people, far more than you might realise and very suitable for the enterprise. Do yourself a favour, find a distribution that appeals to you and try it out.

[-] Moneo@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm tech-comfortable but can't see myself using Linux (on my PC) until it is near-seamless. Windows is a pain in the ass in so many ways but when I want to play a game or install a program I can. I can disable all of the annoying/invasive features one time and never have to deal with them again.

I'm definitely rooting for Linux though and appreciate the users supporting the ecosystem.

[-] noxy@yiffit.net 21 points 1 year ago

near-seamless

As near-seamless as Windows? I'd argue it's already there!

[-] DudeDudenson 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah no, I made my home teather/Plex server computer use Linux and I'm constantly having issues with it. Getting the 5.1 audio to work properly through HDMI was impossible and everytime I try to use it I have to un plug and re plug the HDMI cable or it won't recognize the tv.

Not to mention the 6 different Nvidia driver versions I had to go trough before it would actually output image after not being recognized. With most of them I had to reboot the machine

And I also use Ubuntu on my work laptop and I'm constantly fighting it whenever I dare use my Bluetooth headphones (Why does the entire system hang when the audio drivers hang??????) and having no middle ground for windows stealing focus is annoying as fuck.

Don't get me wrong I'd like to take Ubuntu over windows any day of the week but don't tell me it's seamless because it isn't. It has a lot of unresolved issues and requires a shit ton of tinkering to do things that are done with a couple of clicks on windows

Plus good luck having legacy support for ancient financial software using wine

[-] luci_tired@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Other than VR sadly, but it's really damn good for everything else I do. If only I didn't have an Nvidia card though it's given me so many headaches. >:(

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[-] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 6 points 1 year ago

I'd agree now. I've been 100% Linux since February and I love it. I've tried for 20 years to go to Linux and there was always something that made me go back to Windows. Now, no problems at all.

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm not trying to twist your arm or change your mind, and certainly not trying to convince you to go install linux right now, Just giving you some first hand experience in response to your statements.

But honestly, it is near seamless as is. Especially if you mostly play steam games. The only games that don't work are ones that use grossly invasive anticheats, like Asian MMOs.

Check out protondb.com if you havent yet and look up the type of games you generally play.

and if you play games from other sources, theres usually a lutris script to install it with 1 click.

Just to give a recent example, I was playing Starfield the second it unlocked via proton with zero technical issues.

[-] wooki@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Honestly you will have far less issues on Linux in general. It is easier to install, won’t nag you for rent, it won’t change you default preferences or force apps as system and most of all won’t data mine your data and spy on you under the guise of telemetry. In saying that, it is with the possible exception of some games take a little bit to get up and running but most on steam are very easy and you will be quite surprised at how many run on Linux.

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[-] spuncertv@iusearchlinux.fyi 4 points 1 year ago

If you have an old computer you don't use much, you should consider giving linux a try. My Windows 10 installation on my desktop is far less stable than the arch instance on my laptop, and I am very much in the "still learning" phase of using it.

[-] lightnegative@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Definitely still learning, a seasoned Arch user starts and/or ends every comment with "btw I use Arch"

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[-] michael@leuker.me 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sigh, one more thing for the list ...

"Didn't you have ads in the 21st century?"

"Well sure, but not in our dreams. Only on TV and radio. And in magazines. And movies. And at ball games and on buses and milk cartons and t-shirts and written on the sky. Oh, and in our operating systems. But not in dreams. No siree!"

[-] buycurious@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

Microsoft: the beatings will continue until morale improves

[-] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

Microsoft: We now inject the malware attack vector directly into your OS because it makes us slightly more money.

[-] itsraining@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

Like it wouldn't.

Please, it's 2023. Corporarions have totally embraced the "you are the product" model. They offer you a service on their infrastructure ("the cloud") on their terms, which they can modify and terminate on will. Then they make money by selling your data, showing you ads and using your data to personalize those ads so that you are more likely to click on them.

Shame or ethics? Please, it's money that makes the world go round. Ads in every app! Ads on the web! Ads in every corner of the city! Ads on public transport! More ads! Even more ads! No square centimeter of physical and virtual space left unused!

It's really pathetic.

[-] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

Microsoft will keep doing this shit until their monopoly is broken.

I don't know why people are continuously surprised at MS doing scummy things when they pretty much control the market, have little to no competition, and regulators have proven they don't care.

[-] Anonymousllama@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Truly amazing. Usually you roll out these features, get the userbase involved and intrigued at these new features, get used to them and THEN try and monetize it to capitalize on the sunk cost feeling

[-] Fish@midwest.social 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I was finally able to get rid of the ads in Windows. I'm sure that it doesn't block everything, but editing the 'hosts' file helps. At least I don't see any ads in Windows anymore. Here is an simple tutorial that I found on how to do so:

youtu.be/IJr2DcffquI

[-] clanginator@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I removed copilot the instant I saw it. I don't need any more Microsoft online shit built into my OS, thanks. (I also use Arch, but Windows kernel anti-cheat)

[-] AdmiralShat@programming.dev 7 points 1 year ago

I keep telling myself im going to give linux a try at some point, and I should probably get familiar with it as soon as possible

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[-] plz1@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Here's the knife they slip in with a new "free" feature in Windows...

At least with co-pilot for O365, they are charging (a lot of) money for the feature, presumably without ads.

[-] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

I'm sure it'll still spy though.

[-] plz1@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago
[-] retfma@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago

acts surprised

[-] nostradiel@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Ok, I won't update anymore my Windows..

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