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Prime Minister Mark Carney has asked for a review of Canada’s plan to purchase a fleet of F-35 fighter jets.

The deal with Lockheed Martin and the U.S. government is for 88 planes at a cost of about US$85 million each.

A spokesperson for Defence Minister Bill Blair said Carney has asked Blair to look into whether the F-35 contract is the best investment for Canada, or if there are better options.

β€œWe need to do our homework given the changing environment, and make sure that the contract in its current form is in the best interests of Canadians and the Canadian Armed Forces,” Blair’s press secretary Laurent de Casanove said.

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[–] Punchshark@lemmy.ca 86 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Fuck yeah! Canada will vote with its dollar!

[–] hikuro93@lemmy.ca 64 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Heck yeah. Go Carney.

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[–] Kyle_The_G@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago

Welcome to the carnival!

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CARNAGE!

[–] brax@sh.itjust.works 48 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Seems stupid to buy defense resources from a country that could become hostile. Do any European companies have anything to offer? I get that GOS and a lot of resources are still probably going to come from the USA but right now, the less the better.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 37 points 4 months ago (4 children)

It also seems stupid to keep importing on a mass scale the culture, news, entertainment, media, and media platforms of a country that wants to invade Canada. Yet here we are.

[–] fourish@lemmy.world 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I would be thrilled if all American social media was blocked 100%. Sweep the trolls back into their caves.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 months ago

I’d love that too.

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[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 24 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)
[–] slingstone@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I read somewhere they operate with a licensed American engine, and that some European nations are trying to replace it with a non-American one.... Yeah, it's a development of an F-18 engine.

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[–] Tm12@lemmy.ca 31 points 4 months ago

Something we can train on and maintain within our borders please.

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 28 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Canada could do the funniest thing rn by buying J-35s at half the price.

[–] BetaBlake@lemmy.world 28 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It would be funny, but damn I would not want to buy military equipment from china

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (11 children)

China is Canada's second biggest trade partner, unless they're planning to follow America to war with China, what's the problem? Especially because it's for a military that was designed for the singular purpose of defending itself from an American invasion over the last 70 years.

[–] AnarchoDakosaurus@toast.ooo 7 points 4 months ago

The Canadian public isint ready to swallow it yet but that's where it's going to end up at. China and Iran have been preparing for this scenario for the last 20+ years.

They have all the kit and more needed, and in the right quantity too. In time. People still don't really belive Trump would push the button. The closer he gets the more open to this reality people will become.

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[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

USA: We want to annex Canada. We are not joking

Canadians: Ooh China is very scary.

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, those are definitely safe from tampering.

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

The purpose of buying jets from someone other than America is to reduce America's influence over Canada, why would China sabotage that?

Edit: Why is this controversial? Do you think America tampers with the weapons we send to Taiwan?

[–] homesnatch@lemm.ee 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The US can remotely disable an F-35.. China, I'd expect can do the same for a J-35.

[–] wizzor@sopuli.xyz 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I don't think the above poster doubts their ability, only that they might be less incentivized to do so compared to, say a country that has repeatedly voiced their wish to annex Canada.

[–] homesnatch@lemm.ee 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Nobody expects China to remotely disable J-35's on a whim... But they might do it as they prepare to invade Taiwan.

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[–] Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works 24 points 4 months ago

He's keeping up decorum but yeah these jets are done. You can't buy military equipment from an enemy and the jets would have to be serviced in the USA over their lifetime.

[–] nao@sh.itjust.works 20 points 4 months ago

maybe don't rely on fighter jets than can possibly be disabled remotely by someone talking about invading you

[–] Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca 17 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It always seemed strange that Canada would agree (how much arm twisting?) to buy a plane that won't work well in our Arctic. We are committed to buying 16 jets but it would probably be better to buy the rest elsewhere or put our money into homegrown solutions. Maybe drones or other machines.

[–] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 24 points 4 months ago

Excuse me sir, may I interest you in Gripen? Cold weather tested, fascist free, and oh so stylish. Book your test flight today!

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Maybe we should be looking at what we need for city close quarters defenses and guerilla fighting.

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[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago

Messing with the military industrial complex is not the smartest move for Trump. All that will do is turn the military against him.

[–] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 16 points 4 months ago

Lockheed Martin β€” ”We specialize in destroying the lives of brown people, come fly with us”

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Prime Minister Carney, I have several better solutions. Cancel the F-35 and examine the Saab JAS-39 Gripen, Dassault Rafael, or the Eurofighter Typhoon.

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