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I've opened Lemmy today to lots of anti Canadian sentiment on any recent comments about how messed up 'murica is and it's constant attacks on Canadian sovereignty.

Don't get sucked in. Let them yell into a void. The online campaign has begun in earnest on Lemmy and it's time to point it out and recognise it for what it is.

These are not real people. They are actors trying to affect our decisions as always happens when American exceptionalism is challenged. Our government had the balls to stand up and say no. We have the balls to do the same. They do not like it and will attack you for it.

Don't fall for the bait.

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[–] yarn@lemmy.ca 2 points 21 minutes ago

I wish there was a way to use AI to contain bots to their own shadowbanned islands. Let them talk, and let them appear that they're contributing, but all contained within their own little echo chamber of other bots.

[–] Cybear@lemmy.securitycafe.ca 4 points 1 hour ago
[–] StinkySocialist@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 hour ago

I havent seen those comments yet but as an american ill do my best to call em out when i do🫡

[–] muculent@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

I've only ever met friendly fun rational folks with a passion for hockey who are warm, inviting and willing to fight for what's right. I'll put this sentiment out here: don't mistake kindness for weakness. Keep up the good work Canada.

[–] dadjokesfordays@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 hours ago

Anti-Canadian Americans, and their treasonous stooges up here in Canada can eff aboot and find oot.

Canadians can do tough. I'll half starve myself for the rest of my natural life out of spite. These lazy hate mongers that think we're going to cave if we don't eat a Big Mac should google Canadian soldiers and the history of the Geneva conventions.

Sure it's going to be tough to do without all those American products. I think more and more Canadians every day are saying "who cares". If I can't find a non American substitute, I'm going to simply not buy it at all.

Elbows up, my friends. It's gonna be a long winter but if anything, we're used to winters.

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 6 points 2 hours ago

The world will only be a better place if these people self identify more quickly. I mean, it would be better if they do not exist but, since they do, I am very supportive of them expressing their opinions so that I do not have to waste time discovering them.

[–] Auntievenim@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

I don't know if this is true on not but in the settings for your account it has a toggle to not allow bot comments to show up. It might only work for people that select the "bot account" option but just in case it's an auto filter I'd say try it out, I have felt like I've not seen bots since moving over from reddit

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Don't fight it, lean into it. Fuck with their heads. But lean into it in a back handed way that fucks with them. They have a prepared Rolodex. Go outside of it and you win

[–] Maeve@midwest.social 1 points 1 hour ago

No, don't give them any energy. Save it for what's necessary and useful.

[–] Montreal_Metro@lemmy.ca 45 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Only Nazis hate Canadians. Because we are very good at destroying Nazis. It’s our national past time.

[–] Englishgrinn@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I would like "Kills Nazis" to be a common, simple part of Canadian identity, like hockey and manners. Basically, I want this:

"Oh Bob? Yeah he's just a good old Canadian boy. Smooth wristshot, absolute sniper. Always helps his neighbour shovel the walk. There was a demonstration by a bunch of those "Sons of Odin" fuckers downtown last week and he stopped by to huck bricks at them and protect counterprotestors. You know, we should have him over for a beer and some steaks"

[–] Maeve@midwest.social 1 points 56 minutes ago (1 children)

“Sons of Odin” ? Is this a white supremacist gang like KKK, Nazis, etc or your own word choice?

[–] Englishgrinn@lemmy.ca 2 points 33 minutes ago (1 children)

Sons of Odin are a Canadian white supremacist movement with Viking inspired iconography and a stated mission to "stop the spread of Shariah Law". They were started in 2018 and started with a very media-savvy push as a "service organization" doing park clean ups and handing out water and granola bars to homeless people. Their intent was to grow to spread their Xenophobia and anti-islamic rhetoric.

They aren't a large group, maybe 15k members coast to coast and that's spread pretty thinly. As for why I picked them? I dunno- memorable name and more "Canadian" than name dropping the Klan.

[–] Maeve@midwest.social 1 points 15 minutes ago

Thanks for clarification. It's sad they try to ruin mythos that we should be able to embrace as unifying, within ourselves and with each other, by using it to divide.

[–] zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com 10 points 15 hours ago

We've got monuments in Europe for it and everything

[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 20 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I'm guessing whomever/wherever you're seeing is either defederated or, more likely, blocked by me. In any case, pay them no mind if you do see them.

[–] Isaac@waterloolemmy.ca 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

This guys right, we gotta try not to feed the trolls.

Also don't be a sucker! https://youtu.be/vGAqYNFQdZ4

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

No feed them. "Dont feed the trolls" is how the left has been losing so much political and social capital the past decade. People are all conflict adverse they've forfeited so much ground online and socially. I can tell you all the talking points on the right, I couldn't tell you any on the left let alone anyone who is a good source of information because "doing feed the trolls" results in no left leaning voices or spaces that matter. Instead over feed them. The one thing the left has going for it is there are more of us. We need to use that to our advantage. The advantage being if we realized this, we could have 10 messages for everyone of theirs. Which is what the right has done instead for the past decade. They flood every space they can. Hell I still see them on over passes, in the news, on podcasts, in comedy. Take it all back. Stop the mentality that we win when we don't engage. We don't. We win when they're exhausted not us

[–] Isaac@waterloolemmy.ca 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I enter civil discourse with opposing views all day erryday, but that's a nice point. We need values but I think the order of operations should be to engage civily, agree to disagree, then finally block so they don't feel empowered by their position.

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

I disagree, I think there's a lot of people who think they need to bring some kind of argument and logic that will blow them out of the water. Meanwhile they're having fun because their strategy is to exhaust you until you block them. But people never learned how fun it is to exhaust them back. If we're all so smart, everyone keeps saying they're idiots, then beat them at their own game. But if you block, you lose. Get them to push themselves back into their corners by having them hit the block button.

[–] Isaac@waterloolemmy.ca 2 points 1 hour ago

In theory I'd love that, I give into the trolling but try to keep it to a minimum.

Children are watching and when everyone is slinging shit, they just see shit covered adults and that's almost worse than losing a voter. Losing the next gen

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago

I love Nothmexico!

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 44 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Lol wut. I think its bots. Very few people hate Canadians.

[–] Devanismyname@lemmy.ca 17 points 14 hours ago

Give it a few months. The right wing propaganda machine always finds a way.

[–] abff08f4813c@j4vcdedmiokf56h3ho4t62mlku.srv.us 22 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I wanted to ask - Where on the fediverse are people seeing this? I took a quick peek at lemmy.world/c/politics and lemmy.world/c/world (in particular https://lemmy.world/post/26969666 ) and I didn't see anything like what this post is describing there.

A lot of the comments from this post point to examples from Spez's site or Musk's site, which would make more sense to me. But lemmy? C'mon..

[–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 4 points 5 hours ago

If I had to guess, it would be hexbear.

[–] Aphelion@lemm.ee 44 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

As someone who lives in America, I would like to say, please keep it up my Canadian friends! The more the rest of the world buys and builds their own, the more you undermine Lil Donnie's Fascist Clown Show, and create better options for everyone in the long-term.

Breaking U.S. tech dominance is one of the best ways to put some equality back in the world.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 9 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

As a Canadian, I’m worried that this stoking of anti-Canadian sentiment among the right wing in the US is a pretext to an invasion to try to make good on the “51st state” promise.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 hours ago

Entirely possible. We’ve seen it before with other countries and now it’s been turned on us. We never should have been so close with the US. Now it’s time to disentangle.

[–] Duranie@leminal.space 14 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

As a fellow American, I have nothing but love for our Canadian neighbors!

Whatever happens the next few years, I can only hope we get the opportunity to have an election and vote some adults back in, and start repairing relationships. Yes, I threw up a little with that. 😒.

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[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 52 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

I’m not seeing a lot of this thankfully — makes me wonder if a lot of these anti-Canada posts are coming from a particular instance I’ve already blocked.

[–] Sc00ter@lemm.ee 14 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

First thing that came across my mind when i read this post, "oh thats what hexbears up to now."

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 9 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

????

I mean like them or not I don't think Hexbear users would be doing that. They'd be excited to see the isolation and collapse of the US empire.

[–] Sc00ter@lemm.ee 0 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Idk what they stand for. I never actually understood what they valued or were trying to accomplish. To me, they seemed like trolls who had nothing better to do than pick an arguments on the interent with no real goal except to pwn the internet. They just annoyed me and i blocked them

Theyre the only instance i have blocked, and since i hadnt seen anything that OP was referring to, i assumed it was them

Edit:typos

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[–] cheeseburger@lemmy.ca 71 points 23 hours ago (29 children)

Find a Lemmy app that has user tagging (I use Voyager, and previously Connect) and when you see these users make a note of each one with a red tag so they stand out when you're browsing.

You'll start to see the bastards turning up in all kinds of conversations as well as posting ridiculous shit. That's what I did with the Russian/American trolls/bots during the american election. Very enlightening to see in a political thread who the repeat offender shit-disturbers are so you can down vote, argue with, or report them instead of blocking them and allowing their infection to spread.

Tagging is handy for nice people as well; the community of people around you on Lemmy starts to look more familiar, smaller, and friendlier than you realize, and dick heads become easier to spot.

[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 2 points 4 hours ago

seems like a lot more work than blocking them. engagement and arguments is what they want so they get an excuse to say even more of their stupid shit.

[–] thijsje@social.vivaldi.net 1 points 4 hours ago

@cheeseburger @Perhapsjustsniffit Oh thats a good one. Thanks for the tip

[–] nevermind@lemm.ee 1 points 5 hours ago

Wow, as a computer dunce I had never heard of tagging. Alway, I’ve managed to do it. Very interesting idea. Thank you.

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[–] Magister@lemmy.world 119 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Canada gov should ban X, at least for pre-election

[–] Reannlegge@lemmy.ca 82 points 1 day ago (12 children)

X should be banned full stop.

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[–] GrackleBirb@lemmy.ca 31 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

This is even more rampant and unchecked on Reddit - the Buy Canadian subreddit is infested with either outright "MURRICA FUKKKIN A BRO" types or the more subtle "concern trolls"


"Won't you miss this product? What will you do when you can't afford things anymore? Don't you realize these companies employ Canadians - why do you want to hurt your neighbours?" Yeah - not here for that noise.

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 4 points 15 hours ago

hopefully people will see through it and it’ll backfire and just reinforce people staying strong

[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 49 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Unfortunately some of them are real people, I've had voice conversations with people who believe the bullshit line that "Canada and Mexico are taking advantage of us" that's coming out of these figureheads they blindly follow.

They have zero critical thinking abilities, and that means they can't be reasoned out of their position by showing them facts or asking them to prove their logic.

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