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Edit: I wasn't sure what I was appalled by at first but now I realize it's that this fucking medal just encourages women to be treated no better than a prized heifer.

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[–] gargolito@lemm.ee 1 points 8 minutes ago

Another coinkidink.

[–] PurpleSkull@lemm.ee 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Ah, here is step one. The "Mutter der Nation" medal for women having 5+ children.

Next stop: Lebensborn projects where women are forced to get impregnated by real american patriots (tm)

[–] BeNotAfraid@lemmy.world 1 points 55 minutes ago

Why do you think he wants to be "The Father of IVF." Musky's little breeding program.

Trump is the sum of the reasons I won't procreate and can shove every single medal up his rectum to form Trump piñata. However, we can then string him up and take turns beating Trump-yata with a bat until we all get a medal, and the world will be on its way to healing.

[–] ef9357@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago

The truth is that Trump is a poster child for why abortion should not only be legal, but encouraged.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

ok so this is inconsistent

i read two fucking weeks ago that economists around the world are waking up to the idea that people should have fewer children because otherwise the rich and corporations might have to pay taxes to provide income to the people that the wages don't. if there's fewer people, they don't need to pay people subsidies so much. trump should talk to his economists.


edit: context: wages are predicted to drop so low over the next 20 years that people will not be able to feed themselves on wages alone. social unrest is painful and to avoid it, some sort of Universal Basic Income will be unavoidable. That would have to be paid for by taxes that the rich would have to pay, since literally nobody else has any money. You see where this is going: the rich don't like their wealth to be taxed.

[–] ef9357@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

It wouldn’t help unless said economists drew pictures and used simple words. Even then there’s no reason to believe he would understand.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 59 minutes ago

it's worth a try, and better than doing nothing.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 6 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Can this medal be exchanged for food and shelter?

[–] justme@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 hours ago

That would be communism!

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 16 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

That's what women of child bearing age want and need. A medal. Not jobs, food, housing, security, nor equality.

[–] GreenCavalier@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 hours ago

Also those child-bearing age women do not want nor need maternity care, and are TOTALLY into receiving a huge hospital bill after giving birth.

[–] justme@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 hours ago

All the best countries did that, and US will be greatest of them all, that is what he will make it. Great it will be made...

[–] OmgItBurns@discuss.online 2 points 3 hours ago

I feel like I missed part of the article where it said that the current administration was planning on distributing this medal. What I read was more along the lines of them saying that the current administration is potentially implementing some pronatalist policies and the it describes one policy promoted by a pronatalist group, but nothing about the current administration planning on implementing that specific policy.

Not saying any of this is good and I tend to mentally gloss over parts of text that I read, I'm just earnestly missing where it says that specific policy is one that is being looked into and I would appreciate someone pointing it out to me.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 34 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Jesus fuck, if you want people to have kids, it is not that hard. Remove obstacles. On average, people want to have kids. It's an evolutionary drive. People override that drive when they do not feel secure enough to start a family. Just make that easier. That's it. Make sure people can afford to have kids, that they can provide them a comfortable and safe upbringing, that they can ready their kids to become adults, and that their kids' future seems likely to be bright. How?

Decrease inflation. Subsidize child care. Increase wages and benefits (raise the mimimum wage). Mandate maternity/paternity leave. Make coverage for kids on health, dental, and vision insurance less expensive, or provide medicare for all (or at least all children). Make sure young people can afford good homes off of minimum wage. Make sure good schools are available to everyone by improving public education and providing bussing. Make sure kids are safe in schools with gun control laws. Make sure college/trade schools are inexpensive and accessible. Stablize the economy. Promote good middle class jobs. Avoid war. Fight bigotry. Provide comprehensive sex education and family planning resources including abortion rights so that people can start families when they are ready and promote generational welfare rather than propogating generational poverty.

Notice how damn near all of these things that would increase the birth rate are antithetical to GOP policy though? You want the results, but not the means. You want to offer "medals" for motherhood like a boss offers a pizza party for a record profits last quarter. It's unserious, unhelpful, condescending, insulting, and still leaves new parents struggling to get by. Be better leaders with sensible policies. Maybe then you will get your wish.

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

I would gold this comment if I could!

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 22 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

Wait so we have too many immigrants but not enough babies?

What's going on?

[–] jabeez@lemmy.today 13 points 6 hours ago

Sounds about white.

[–] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 17 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Your masters want you to breed.

Whether you can afford to have children or not.

[–] misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Especially when you can't afford their education. Those are the best kind of voters.

[–] mhague@lemmy.world 14 points 8 hours ago

Augustus did this 2000 years ago. Dictators can only imagine so far.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 12 points 12 hours ago

comes with bag of onions.

[–] biofaust@lemmy.world 20 points 14 hours ago

Meloni copying this (once more, as Italy has already done it many times, since the 1920s) in 3...2...

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 16 hours ago (2 children)
[–] delgato@lemmy.world 7 points 8 hours ago

This is the more accurate comparison. Yes, Trump’s government is like nazi Germany in many respects but the pronatalist movement is straight out the Putin playbook.

[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago

the US Government is bought, paid for, and owned by the Russian Mafia. So much so that the Subordinate tries to emulate the master in every facet now.

[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 134 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (14 children)

Governments are always offering weird wacky incentives for women to have children, when the solution is usually patently obvious: you can increase fertility by making it easy and affordable to have children. Stipends for food, paid maternity/paternity leave, free childcare services, affordable housing, and a good economy with an abundance of high-paying jobs.

I mean... there's a reason the baby boom happened in the 50s! But no, that would be socialism!!

[–] nargis@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I think you're forgetting the marital rape, financial dependence on men, lack of choice, sexist culture and general helplessness and misery of women involved in creating the 'baby boom'.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 hours ago

Were those new problems that didn't exist before the 50s?

[–] bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works 7 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Germany has most of these and a low birth rate.

[–] misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

You still need 2 working parents, few people want to balance a career and children. We're not designed for it. And their social help, while good for global standards, amounts to a fraction of the cost of having kids. In prehistory a whole village raised children and people barely worked. Social policies help but we need a global structural change.

Yes, the social support structure is essential. If you have extended family for example; that will help you out a lot with costs and care. Families are small, atomized and fractured today.

[–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

But that'd hurt billionaires.

[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Nooo not the billionaires!

[–] Quadhammer@lemmy.world 1 points 44 minutes ago

Someone think of the poor billionaires!

[–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 15 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

That's how you create a society of responsible adults capable of critical thinking. They want a society of mindless workers used to hardship and deprivation of their rights.

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[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 hours ago

There are also signs that there is an opportunity window that closes for large families.

As families sizes shrink, the children of those families go on to have a family size similar to what they grew up in. This is especially problematic for single child households.

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 35 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

These fuckers will do anything to invent a flying machine except the proven model that works because they knoooow it gotta be possible with large square blocks of quarried marble tied to huskies. Just need more dogs. Or maybe more marble. mush! Ok add some more marble see if that works.

[–] ZeffSyde@lemmy.world 9 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I posit that if we add a spoiler with 20" rims and a high flow muffler, this block of marble will surely take flight.

[–] iheartneopets@lemm.ee 2 points 3 hours ago

Well somebody's about to get added to a Signal chat

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[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 37 points 16 hours ago

...could he just skip to the part where he feeds himself a bullet just like daddy-Hitler, already?

[–] TheDeadlySquid@lemm.ee 2 points 9 hours ago

Have you heard about the military parade on his birthday?

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