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[–] Alloi@lemmy.world 1 points 29 minutes ago

"im gonna pay you 5 grand to creampie your wife for the economy"

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 hour ago

It's good because raising a child only costs five grand, as we're all aware.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

That'll cover the cost of a child for a whole month.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 hours ago

And for the other 175 months you can just go f yourself because we care about fetuses, we do not care about children

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

This move will be repealed in 2 weeks.

When a black woman applies for it for triplets.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

whispers rapidly "Conditions and restrictions apply"

[–] Bosht@lemmy.world 19 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

And those that are uneducated or downright stupid will fall for it. Those that aren't, will continue not to because nobody can afford to have kids and they know 5k doesn't do shit.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 8 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

100%. I think I read over the course of life from 0 to 18 years of age it costs about 100K to raise a kid.

[–] oyo@lemm.ee 1 points 7 hours ago

Try $300k these days. Double it if you're in California.

[–] Sgt_choke_n_stroke@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

America is cooked if they think this will solve the baby bust. We're gonna turn into Japan and South Korea in 40 years

[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

lol. Like making a rent payment solely from the change found in your couch cushions.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 10 points 12 hours ago

Poland went trough this a decade ago. First they offered a small bonus after birth. This didn't impact the birth rate at all. Next they introduced a monthly allowance per child. This also didn't impact the birth rate at all. Monthly allowance did lower child poverty rates though.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 18 points 16 hours ago

This does not even cover the costs for the birth in hospital.

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 99 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Don't fall for it. Kids cost way more than that.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (9 children)

How much does it cost to even have a baby in a hospital? 🤔

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 34 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

My co-worker paid $39,000 two years ago. It was ~$25,000 for us ~14 years ago.

[–] kamenlady@lemmy.world 20 points 23 hours ago

Fuck. When i was born, i had to spend some time in an incubator. My mom fell in a coma and woke up 1 month later. We were in the hospital the whole time.

Tons of exams for my mom ...

This would have ruined my parents, if i would have been born in the USA, which almost happened.

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 16 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

My co-worker paid $39,000 two years ago. It was ~$25,000 for us ~14 years ago.

That's without insurance, right?

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 12 points 23 hours ago

And don't forget the cost of caring for a kid is somewhere in the realm of $10k over the first year.

P.S. Always request an itemized bill from hospitals. Magically the amount owed will go down.

[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

At least your remaining deductible, perhaps up to your max-year-out-of-pocket pre-paid weeks in advance assuming you have insurance and they're in-network. So... almost certainly above 5k.

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[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 9 points 22 hours ago

It’s all in what insurance, and the hospital ital costs are only the beginning

About 18 years ago we were pretty well covered: deductible wasn’t bad. But other people talked about first year supplies. You also have multiple doctor visits so even if it’s just deductible it starts adding up. Then we had an allergy thing where special food was $1,400/month - luckily we only had to pay a few months while arguing with insurance

Then we arrive at today. All those years of kid expenses made it tough to save, but now we have college expenses and the current administration is cutting financial aid

We need so much more than $5k to raise kids

[–] Hello_there@fedia.io 11 points 23 hours ago

Hospital isn't where it ends. I'm paying like 30 cents to 50 cents per diaper. Newborns can go thru like 8 of them a day, down to 3-4 once they are a few years old. Kids still wear them at night until sleep without peeing. Average it out to 2 a day * 0.40 * 365 * 5 yrs Or, 10 * 0.40 * 365 So around $1400 in diapers alone. Not including all the creams / wipes you need with that. Food. Medicine. Clothes. Toys. Sick days. Car seats. Strollers. Childcare for a thousand or two per month.

Give 50k and maybe you'd break even.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 7 points 22 hours ago

My sister's girl had a baby boy about 3 years ago.

$0

Phew. 🇨🇦

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

At least 10k with no complications, plus whatever income you lose from not working

Source

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[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 39 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Nothing like a $5k bonus for accepting a half million liability (at least).

[–] ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world 9 points 19 hours ago

I have a modest proposal that might take care of that liability

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 5 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, the worst part is it'll just incentivize idiots to breed.

[–] hausthatforrem@lemm.ee 12 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Those are the ones they want

[–] OldChicoAle@lemmy.world 10 points 18 hours ago

They love the poorly educated.

[–] j0ester@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

What’s with the price of $5,000? First it were these checks, and now this…

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 3 points 12 hours ago

PR testing how much to buy any slice of goodwill.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemm.ee 25 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

Once again right wing policies don't match up with what their stated goals are. This won't even cover the hospital bill for delivering the kid, let alone what it costs to raise them.

If the right wing actually wanted to raise birth rates, they'd be offering universal healthcare, at least triple the current minimum wage, free preschool, free college/trade school, substantial paid parental leave for both parents, actual sick time/PTO laws.

Not this insult

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[–] PhatalFlaw@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Cost of raising a middle-income child in the US to age 18 (excludes college/university) is around $375,000 pre-cost increase due to the amazing economic changes. But hey, $5k sure sounds worth it! /s

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[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 20 hours ago

Economically, birth rates need to go up.

But environmentally, it’s not a good picture.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 19 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

The birth rate is going to crater, because no one wants to bring children into a fascist shithole.

[–] PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 9 hours ago

Nah, I see this plan not as paying people for kids, but subsidizing the quiverful and other "women are broodmares" sorts at the expense of the whole population. Because that's already his base, and more money means more speech in America.

[–] Delta_V@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago

that number needs 2 more zeros

[–] griff 20 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 32 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

$3,000 for everyone else. Call it a compromise.

[–] belastend@slrpnk.net 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

The "three-thousand dollars out of five-thousand dollars" compromise.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 17 points 23 hours ago

Oof, American history joke.

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[–] KelvarIW@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 21 hours ago

I want to say "that's a pathetic amount" but given how many ads I saw offering "cash in hand" for people to refinance their car loan right around Christmas.... I'm not confident Americans will turn this down.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 23 hours ago

I doubt that even covers the cost of drugs for giving birth.

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Do you get the $5,000 bonus even if you immediately put the child up for adoption? For some people, going this route could be more profitable than the pyramid scheme they call their “side hustle”.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemm.ee 15 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

Being a surrogate pays a lot more than this pittance.

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