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cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/63424412

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[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Had a coworker looking into importing these. He could make a fair profit and make people very happy, plus he had the capital to get going just off his salary. No idea where he left off on that, but I'd buy one quick.

Now I'm looking at how to get one. A 4WD would replace almost everything I use my 2WD 2004 F150 for, and a trailer hitch would get the rest.

[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 50 points 21 hours ago (4 children)

Maybe those car manufacturers should get with the kei truck program instead of fighting it.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 37 points 21 hours ago

Nonsense! They want to sell you an $80,000 car. Not a $10,000 car.

[–] megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

They get insane margins on those big payment princesses. For a lot of US automakers that’s what’s keeping them above water.

The market shifting towards small affordable utility vehicles is their worst nightmare.

[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 29 points 20 hours ago

Sounds like they need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps.

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Could you imagine if the US made kei truck production a utility?

[–] megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 hours ago

Utility, in the context of the automobile market, is a class of vehicles, hence why Australians call pickups “utes”.

Kai trucks count as utility vehicles, as do american pickup trucks.

Although, realistically, most pickup trucks sold In the US would better be described as “premium” or “luxury” vehicles given that most people buying them are not using them for off roading, hauling or towing, but rather as “life style” vehicles and status symbols.

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 17 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (2 children)

These things get used everywhere in the world. Used to have a yellow one on a farm. Tough, super cheap, and reliable hauler around the property. It got used more than the main 4×4s which were more for long distance off-roading in remote parts of the property where terrain gets nuts.

You could get a fleet of these for the price of an American "truck". And that means US car companies start losing profit from their useless overpriced can+trays.

[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 8 points 20 hours ago

The university in my town has a fleet of them.

[–] Geometrinen_Gepardi@sopuli.xyz 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I would guess it's hard to break parts on them since they're so light?

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago

Yep, exactly. Plus the mechanical simplicity means much fewer things fail anyway. Common repairs take minutes (suspension, servicing, electrics, etc.), are very simple, and very cheap. It's exactly what you want out of a workhorse vehicle. They've been so cleverly thought out because Japanese manufacturers had to be with KEI designs. Plus plemty come 4×4 and are very capable on soft terrain due to the lightness.

They're just so insanely practical and affordable. Everyone loves them. Everyone loves a big V8 turbo diesel that never gets stuck and can haul anything, but they're inferior mechanically and economically for most day-to-day run around jobs around the property.

I'm sure these will start flooding into the US agriculture industry if they're able to.

[–] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 22 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

Truck size growth is driven at least partially, if not mainly, by gas mileage regulations, where you can have lower gas mileage on larger vehicles, an allowance that was made to accommodate work vehicles. So people who want a powerful vehicle are forced to go bigger. If these regulations were relaxed or eliminated, we would have much smaller but still powerful trucks. I'd be interested in something like that...

[–] megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 hours ago

Or we could just tighten the regulations on large vehicles, rather than removing the whole system which is a net good over all.

Best not to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

[–] raltoid@lemmy.world 15 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (2 children)

Your reasoning is lacking.

You're "forced" to go bigger, because car manufacturers are too greedy. The big pickups and SUVs are basically classified as commercial trucks, so the regulations are much looser when it comes to emissions and safety. Which make them cheaper to produce.

Car companies are more than capable of making powerful small cars under current regulations and even stricter ones, but that has a smaller profit margin. That's why they are fighting this, they want to keep their margins and not have to compete with these cars.

[–] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 1 points 33 minutes ago

Not sure I see the connection between margin and truck size.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago

Just make those who want to get lower taxes for driving "commercial use" vehicles bring clear evidence of commercial use.

[–] the_q@lemm.ee 24 points 20 hours ago

I love living in a country where businesses make the rules.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 14 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

We already drive Japanese cars on the roads. Why can’t we drive small ones?

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 26 points 20 hours ago

It's the child-slayer emotional support trucks that can't see the damn road ahead of themselves that are broadly unsafe vehicles. I had an arrogant boss tell me "maybe unsafe for you, but I'll crush the other guy and be fine!"

Thus, in the future, all cars will be ten tons minimum, and you drive by feeling the impacts as you hit stuff bumping around the neighborhood.

[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 7 points 18 hours ago

Cause its piracy against cuck trucks. Having a small, effecient vehicle that is more practical, has more cargo space and capacity and is cheaper is simply unamerican.

[–] workerONE@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago

The guys on the YouTube channel MightyCarMods love these little trucks

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I was thinking about importing something like that back when I had money

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 1 points 11 hours ago

One day, me too.