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That awkward moment when terrorists win.
this post was submitted on 22 May 2025
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"All men are created equal"
Is slave state
Always has been
I think the dawn of neoliberalism under Reagan and the 2008 crisis are essential. 9/11 was just a great sensation to focus on
9/11 was a catalyst for forces that were already in play.
Casus belli* 😅
I thought we all agreed it was the gorilla.
That was but a symptom, a healthy society wouldn't have let that happen to our boi Harambe in the first place
Interesting no one has mentioned the 2000 election shenanigans yet. That was some real stolen election shit
Florida? Yeah I heard a podcast about this, eerily similar to all that's been happening around the last 2 elections.
I think the assassination of JFK was the first kill shot that signal the end of America. Nixon and Regan becoming president was the cancer that inflicted the backbone of the working class. And 9/11 helped kick off anew wave of white hatred that had been boiling since the 90s. And now we are where we are now to the point of no return. I’m 42 years old and have seen and lived through some terrible and crazy times and we are all about to head straight into a country wide car crash and idk what will happen after it or if this country will survive it.
Let's throw some wild cards to keep your world entertaining
You could argue that Regan was the spark. 9/11 was the fire. Trump is the ashes.
Trump is the fallout making us sick.
Or Nixon.
9/11, horrible as it was, just gave them a good reason to put into law some truly undemocratic shit they probably already had waiting in a drawer for a while.
It was the stagflation in the seventies. That's when the rich managed to switch the economy ~~back to exploitation mode~~ to neoliberalism, and Reagan was their tool.
if it wasn't regan, it was the great depression. if it wasn't the great depression it was the civil war.
we didn't start the fire. it was always burning since the world's been turning.
We got the new deal it of the great depression though. It took Republicans many decades of dedication to dismantle what we gained from that.
my post was basically just rhetorical, but you have a great point.. i wonder what "new deal" they'll come up with in the wake of this guy.
Truth is?
Game's been rigged from the start.
An era of oil abuse.
The day america ended:
picture of Christopher Columbus
The day Earth ended: The day when the first Eukaryotic Organism was evolved
This is prokaryote erasure
This is more of a political commentary on that fact that when I was politically activated, preteen, its been nothing but down hill.
Did this attack really cause a change in trajectory though?
I think capitalism has been leading the US down this path since the second world war.
I'd argue neoconservativism started with WW2, but neoliberalism is probably better tied to Nixon. So I agree, 9/11 was just a continuation of neocon power grabs, but invoking post-WW2 "capitalism" doesn't make much sense to me; the New Deal was comparatively great for workers. Neoconservativism isn't really an economic movement like neoliberalism is.
Is it a change of trajectory If instead of going down a long slope you turn down a road leading toward the edge of a cliff? Because while I agree about capitalism leading to inevitable horrific consequences there's really no way to argue against 9/11 ushering in an age of utter Horrors when it came to civil rights.
Of course you could also make the argument that the turn towards that Cliff was actually caused by the Supreme Court picking George W bush to be our president.
Yeah that's fair.
These types of events are always used as an excuse to dial up invasive powers of government.
It didn't change the trajectory, but those attacks were much more effective than even Al Qaeda thought they would be. They provided the excuse the American fascists were looking for to further their own plans without much push back.
I don't get it. I just see NYC rolling coal.