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[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 24 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Trust me when I say this: none of the right-wing media/politicians, will understand that they've made any points on behalf of the protestors by blurring the "men's" nipples.

Also, saying men can go around topless but not women, is sexist. Any such law should be removed. We should all be equal in the eyes of the law. With that said: that shouldn't imply that women should go around topless. It should just be legally allowed. I'm a guy, but I don't think I need to explain to anyone the potential complications from going around topless as a woman... Whether trans or not.

The whole situation is dumb. Society needs to do better. We're all people. Let's keep that in mind and treat everyone the same, based on the fact that they are a human person in society. No legal separation of sex, gender, race, religion, or anything else. If you are a human person, you should have the same rights and freedoms as every other human person.

[–] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 18 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I'm a guy, but I don't think I need to explain to anyone the potential complications from going around topless as a woman... Whether trans or not.

It's normal and fairly mundane for men to go topless in virtually all societies, however, there are a good number of cultures where it is also normal for women to be topless. If it is normal and mundane for women to be topless, then it becomes a non-issue eventually. It's only racy because we're trained in our culture to find it racy.

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

In the late 90s or early aughts here in Canada women challenged and won the right to go topless as well as men. I can't recall seeing in person any women exercising that right myself, and it won't surprise me if the religions conservatives here have managed to overturn that directly or indirectly, but as a teenager/young adult i thought it was cool at the time that Canada fixed that inequality

Didn't really have a point here just felt like sharing

[–] Fifrok@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 30 minutes ago

OH! Finally! A chance to use my knowledge acquired from scrolling wikipedia while procrastinating! That law hasn't been overturned and is still, well, law. Of course every once in a while some clueless cop (because why should somebody enforcing the law, know the law sigh) will ask a topless sunbather to cover up. Here's the article.

[–] Dadifer@lemmy.world 13 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Is it illegal for women to be topless?

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 12 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah. That seems sexist.

Free the nipple.

[–] IhaveCrabs111@lemmy.world 0 points 3 hours ago (4 children)

Genuine question, how is it sexist? Is their no acknowledgment of biological differences between men and women as a general rule (trans issues being more of an exception to the rule)? We acknowledge differences in general in regards to sports, bathrooms, fitting rooms, the way clothes are made, people’s consumption of pornography, magazines and media. Why on this point are we ignoring that all of those things ls are real and happen and pretending there’s no difference?

[–] Dadifer@lemmy.world 7 points 1 hour ago

Because the only reason to cover women's nipples is because the gender in power may have hormonal changes that they are unwilling to control.

[–] LastOneSitting@lemmy.wtf 6 points 1 hour ago

Because the sexualization of the female nipple is the only reason it is illegal to bare it in public. There is no universal or biological reason to ban it, just a cultural conditioning.

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

There are differences, but there is no need for different rules.

Can you, or are you willing to, say outright, why it should be illegal?

[–] Nounka@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Why should a nipple be hidden only if it is a female one. Why would man have the right to walk without t-shirts and woman be punished for the same walk?

Yet imo it should be the other way. Males need to cover up to. Lets see how fast they start complaining.

[–] Sausa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 9 hours ago

Katy Montgomerie a really good interview with one of the women at the protest: https://youtu.be/wbA0q0eqYnM

[–] EySkibidiBabBab@feddit.dk 48 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

A living edge case. I love it.

[–] MajesticElevator@lemmy.zip 4 points 9 hours ago

I guess the only solution is to free the nipple

[–] Anivia@feddit.org 8 points 10 hours ago

Took me a while to even notice they are censored, and not just weird looking

[–] Maximumbird@lemm.ee 53 points 17 hours ago

Fucking Genius

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 16 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I cannot imagine being a cop in this country the laws are just totally arbitrary and you'd have to enforce them even though they make zero sense.

[–] OhNoMoreLemmy@lemmy.ml 13 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

It gets even mader. If you take one step over the border into England, being topless suddenly becomes legal regardless of gender or birth sex.

however it is not an offence for a man or a woman to be topless in England and Wales, so long as the person has not taken off their clothes with the intention of shocking or upsetting others.

https://petition.parliament.uk/archived/petitions/616538

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

There is even a special ordinances for Newcastle that say that the moment the temperature exceeds 12°C taking your top off becomes mandatory.

[–] silasmariner@programming.dev 1 points 1 hour ago

Am Newcastle. Can confirm.

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 136 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

It would have been icing on the cake if trans men would have been in the same protest, also topless, but they weren't censored lol

[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 10 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, cis dudes would work in that context too, no?

[–] null@slrpnk.net 9 points 7 hours ago

Not if the point is to make the government acknowledge their gender.

[–] 13igTyme@lemmy.world 29 points 17 hours ago (5 children)

To many in alt right groups, trans men don't exist.

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[–] HakunaHafada@lemm.ee 87 points 21 hours ago

Malicious compliance at its best.

[–] zanyllama52@infosec.pub 67 points 21 hours ago

Damn, these people are bold as fuck. Get it!

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 109 points 22 hours ago

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is what we call a brilliant catch-22 situation.

[–] wolfrasin@lemm.ee 155 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

Legendary behavior. Bigots can choke on it

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 1 points 2 hours ago

A lot of them do.

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[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 64 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (7 children)

In America most men are overweight or obese and have pendulous lumps on their chests with nipples attached. Personally I don't love seeing them, but when the weather is right, they are all over the goddamn place. It's absolutely ludicrous that women can't do the same. If there were any logical rule it would be don't show your chesticles unless you are a woman who uses them for feeding a child OR everybody gets to have their tits out regardless of any gender types. Pick one and go with it, but the current laws are base AF.

[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 12 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

In other parts of the world nudity isn't seen as a big deal or in some cases even unusual in certain settings. Americans are so afraid of seeing a titty or penis or whatever else.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 hours ago

I mean in some parts it's not as big a deal yes. There are plenty of parts where it is like this. I think America is a good example primarily because so many American men have tits.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 32 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

When I was in pre-K, on a really hot day, I remember asking why the boys got to take off their shirts but I couldn’t.

Now that I’ve had top surgery, I can be the fat hairy bearded guy that mows lawns shirtless. It’s nice.

[–] PagPag@lemmy.world 22 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I mow with a long sleeve that’s rated for 15fpf, skin cancer is a real concern. Stay safe out there fam

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

The safety vs comfort rivalry

[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago

I'm happy for you that it worked out in the end.

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[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 31 points 21 hours ago

Austin actually has a city ordinance with more or less this exact logic. Once you’ve seen a dozen or so average women with their chests uncovered at the pool, it loses any excitement it may have initially held.

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[–] toy_boat_toy_boat@lemmy.world 351 points 1 day ago (9 children)

SOMETIMES A CHECKMATE IS JUST SO FUCKING POETIC.

Butters: weiners out!

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 128 points 1 day ago (3 children)

For real, this is such a great move. Oh sure, the government could just ban nipples in general, but good luck enforcing that when it gets mildly warm and every scottish man rips their shirt off

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[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 182 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (18 children)

Another example of the Scots fighting for freedom .... they've been doing it successfully for thousands of years and they're still doing it!

I will never in my life ever understand the fight against gay, lesbian, bi, queer, LGBTQ+

They are a fraction of the population yet the majority causes them immeasurable harm simply because they exist. The louder they persecute, the more prominent LGBTQ+ movement becomes .... it's contradictory. If conservatives had just left them alone, there would almost be no issue about any of this at all.

There are far more important debates and fights to be had in our society .... namely the fight to preserve the survivability of our species in the coming centuries ... yet here we are fighting about who gets to show or not show their tits!!!!

I will never in my life ever understand the fight against gay, lesbian, bi, queer, LGBTQ+

One argument is that any (fictional) male can just put on a wig and a dress and enter any "women designated" area.

The people making this argument are usually men and rarely has an actual incident occurred.

(This opinion is based on trying to give Graham Linehan a benefit of doubt)

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