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[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 36 points 6 days ago

great advertisement for signal

[–] YesButActuallyMaybe@lemmy.ca 52 points 6 days ago (2 children)

There goes my telegram account. Bye, you won’t be missed

[–] NotKyloRen@lemmy.zip 23 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I don't know why people stuck with it. I've used it; I get that a lot of the initial success/hype was:

  • It's not owned by Meta
  • "Putin hates Durov!"
  • "Unlimited" storage (lots of people using it as free cloud storage, which is dumb if you value your files)

But your messages are not E2EE by default (only "Secret Chats", which aren't synced across devices)...Telegram (the organization) could always read your messages. I said this so many times and got called everything under the sun.

"Why would they care about my messages though?" ------> Because $300 Million.

[–] Eyedust@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 6 days ago

This. The second Premium landed I was out, and it was slipping long before that.

Whelp. Same thought :(

[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 63 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Telegram ASTOUNDS me.

Like, there's been several instances of them outwardly admitting that their security sucks, not to use it for encrypted chats, that they just give logs away to world governments, and yet thousands of crypto bros and bots use telegram to function, EVEN ZLIBRARY, who could just as easily set up and use Matrix, has a Telegram bot for downloading books.

[–] josefo@leminal.space 5 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Their bot api is very easy to use. I have made some telegram bots because is so easy. Tried to do the same with WhatsApp and didn't even get permission and api access.

Average Joes use mainstream things, if you want to do something accessible, these bots are the way. Ideally, you want them to download or use an app that does some hand holding. I'm all up to the fediverse but let's be honest, it has some non intuitive things for today's user, most were trained to understand and like centralized services. They vaguely understand and use emails today, and mostly for account creation of other platforms.

Disclaimer: haven't tried to make signal bots, they are a thing?

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[–] ristoril_zip@lemmy.zip 23 points 6 days ago

now telegram is going to insert random information about South African White genocide to every conversation. or it will be in every recommended reply at least.

Nail no.1 in the coffin for me was when this Durov guy sent an unsolicited telegram-wide message on election day in my country, claiming French interference in our elections.

This is nail no.2 in the coffin.

Guess I’ll get off my lazy arse and delete my telegram account now

[–] whereisk@lemmy.world 28 points 6 days ago

Wondering how long has this been cooking? A year or so ago musk started attacking signal for no discernible reason and recommending telegram instead.

[–] kazerniel@lemmy.world 20 points 6 days ago (1 children)

ew wtf, Telegram has been one of the less shittified ones :c

[–] Blemgo@lemmy.world 26 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Honestly, Telegramm always seemed to me a bit shifty since I learnt E2EE for chats was opt-in.

[–] NotKyloRen@lemmy.zip 8 points 6 days ago

Been saying this for years. Then they introduced Premium to "help fund things" (but they're also taking $300 MILLION from Elon, and giving them access to user data.

So will basic features stop being paywalled now? Or are people going to have to keep paying to stop random people from messaging them?

[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 6 points 6 days ago

not even available on desktop clients, or for group chats

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 17 points 6 days ago

First thing i'm doing is opening a channel to run up Grok API calls maliciously

[–] MazonnaCara89@lemmy.ml 10 points 6 days ago
[–] ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee 19 points 6 days ago
[–] yumyumsmuncher@feddit.uk 21 points 6 days ago (7 children)

Gross. So glad I deleted it and moved to Signal

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)
  • Matrix (Element etc...)
  • XMPP
  • Session
  • SimpleX
  • Signal
  • GNU-Jami
  • Briar
[–] ebolapie@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

Briar would be great if I knew anyone who was willing to use briar

[–] KumaSudosa@feddit.dk 7 points 6 days ago

Element here all the way!

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[–] Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I only use telegram to buy illegal iptv subscriptions. Is there a reason I would ever need grok in there?

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[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

How many people pressed the play button in the image. I know I did.

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