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Years earlier, she had asked a boss if he would let his children fly on a plane with the litany of flaws and non-conformances he was urging her to “pencil-whip”: “Cindy, none of these planes are staying in America, they’re all going overseas,” he retorted, much to her horror.

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[–] filister@lemmy.world 15 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

I am genuinely curious why on Earth airline companies are still buying Boeing planes. The last 5-10 crashes all included their planes and it is a mystery why their shares didn't tank more.

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Because the stock market is a fucking scam.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

It's gambling for the rich and people who want to be rich.

[–] KMAMURI@lemmy.world 1 points 14 minutes ago

It's gambling for the people who want to be rich. It's a bank and tax haven for those who are already rich.

[–] mazzilius_marsti@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

they probably already bought too many of Boeing planes before these accidents happened. So what are they gonna do, put a bunch of Boeing planes in the back room and use Airbus? Still when i fly, I avoid Boeing like a plague. The problem is there are very limited Airbus flights for my route.

[–] mx_smith@lemmy.world 36 points 10 hours ago

I recently had the privilege of cleaning up code by a big India out sourcing company. The code quality was some of the worst I have seen in my 30 years of programming. Then I found [this article] (https://www.industryweek.com/supply-chain/article/22027840/boeings-737-max-software-outsourced-to-9-an-hour-engineers) about the same company writing code for Boeing.

[–] Crankenstein@lemmy.world 51 points 14 hours ago

A rich executive put the lives of others below penny pinching profits?

I'm shook. 🫩

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 60 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Sounds like the planes Boeing sent to India had foreign object debris rattling around inside conduits.

That’s a ticking time bomb for random electrical failures, such as both engines shutting down right after takeoff.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 24 points 16 hours ago

If it was from electrical failure, it'd be more likely to happen in the pilot's thrust control than simultaneously in both engines. But usually if both engines fail after take off....my money is on fuel system failure.

[–] Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world 104 points 21 hours ago (4 children)
[–] griff 30 points 18 hours ago

Boeing…Boeing…Gone!

[–] match@pawb.social 26 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Boeing: the sound a plane makes when it hits the ground

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 12 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

or when the front falls off midflight.

[–] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 6 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Pretty sure they don't usually do that.

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Only sometimes! And the door goes pop! Too!

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 6 points 12 hours ago

and thier spacecraft is haunted, making those mysterious sounds while in flight.

[–] dinren@discuss.online 52 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

BOEING KILLED JOHN BARNETT

[–] johnny_deadeyes@piefed.social 7 points 17 hours ago (2 children)
[–] jve@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

Who’s downvoting this? It’s hilarious!

[–] dinren@discuss.online 0 points 12 hours ago

Wooooowwww I love it. Thank you.

[–] wiLD0@lemmy.world 39 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Boeing is run too much by Wall Street.

[–] EndRedStateSubsidies@leminal.space 23 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Black Rock basically owns the entire stock market. Even the best intentioned companies eventually have to cave to fiduciary duty to shareholders.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 23 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Black Rock owns absolutely fuck-all. It only manages the 401ks of normal people like you and me, and STOLE OUR SHAREHOLDER VOTING RIGHTS.

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 11 points 17 hours ago

Yeah these headlines always grind my gears. Even the equity they don't steal, they leverage as if their own assets. They're fucking mine and yours.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 16 hours ago

No, it really doesn't. Assets under management (not owned) 11.5 trillion, while the American stock market alone is worth around 50.

[–] charade_you_are@sh.itjust.works 13 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

What capitalist giant corp isn't?

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 6 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_private_non-governmental_companies_by_revenue

Including such recognizable names as Aldi, State Farm, Deloitte, Ingram Micro, and Ikea.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Sooo robber barons are better?

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 points 56 minutes ago

Yes. Unambigiously.

What would you rather have, one person with a ton of power making decisions, or abstract it out over a group and diffuse all responsibility?

Both are bad, but one of them has a (likely not morally great) person at the top, the other has lots of robber barons sharing ownership and collectively demanding line go up

A person isn't usually dumb enough to fire half their workforce, because they know their bread and butter comes from that workforce. A consulting company advising the business and shareholders at the same time can easily do such stupidity for short term profits

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 10 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

Boeing is straight fucking scum, but that was the strangest plane crash I've ever seen. (LOL, like I'm an export.) The truth will out.

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 19 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

i've seen one, where the plane stalled after taking off and then kinda went backwards, then dove frontal again. if i remember correctly, unsecured cargo was suspected. it fell like a leaf.

found it: https://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2013/may/01/747-cargo-plane-crash-bagram-airbase-video

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 19 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I remember that, if I remember correctly, it was a tank, and they suddenly had a massive CoG shift to the back of the aircraft, causing the plane to pitch up and stall.

[–] kcuf@lemmy.world 14 points 17 hours ago

Ya it was military equipment that was not secured appropriately.

[–] nick_99@sh.itjust.works 7 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

That is crazy, it looked like CGI.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 4 points 15 hours ago

a game glitching.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 5 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah.... The article is conflating power failure with engine failure. It was a very odd plane crash, and it didn't appear that they had power failure. It looks like they lost thrust on both engines, which is really rare in multiengine aircraft.

[–] kiwifoxtrot@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

It seemed to take forever to start to rotate and the nose was pointed up the whole time. I would have expected to see the nose point down to prevent a stall.

[–] Bouzou@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

Had they gotten high enough to even be able to nose down though?

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Yep, another Boeing mystery crash where everything stopped working at once.

I'm kinda suspicious that the critical moments weren't actually missing from Jeju Air's black boxes when they were delivered to the US.