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[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 11 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Even if those leaves were a fruit, they're not called greens. Some kinds of leaves are called that as a general term, but not the ones in the picture. He's wrong on so many levels!

[–] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 hour ago

Is that what he was saying? That's what I was confused about. Those leaves are not greens. They are green, but still everything you said.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 55 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Orange, cherry, blackberry, etc.

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 74 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I'm pretty sure orange and cherry are named after the fruit, but Blackberry is true.

[–] ipitco@lemmy.super.ynh.fr 61 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nah it's inspired from the phone

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] Impound4017@sh.itjust.works 6 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

That tracks. Steve Jobs was known for his enjoyment of fruit, to a potentially problematic degree.

[–] GrilledCheese@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Dunno who that is but Tim Apple invented the computer and his ancestors invented the apple (in 196 AD) and just for the record if you think enjoying fruit is problematic you’re probably homophobic or something ¯\(ツ)/¯ iunno go away

[–] ipitco@lemmy.super.ynh.fr 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

those fuckers try to sell their fruit by using a brand's name. They even got the design wrong, it's supposed to have a curved side.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Pendants will argue that black is not a colour

[–] sxan@midwest.social 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Physicists might argue that, but black is a color linguistically and in common usage; I'd argue that since OP was generally speaking in a linguistic context, linguistic rules override physics pedantry.

[–] naught101@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

linguistic rules override physics pedantry.

Idk why, maybe because I'm a scientist, but this speaks to something in my soul

[–] sxan@midwest.social 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I thought briefly about editing that to say, "in this context", but I thought it might be redundant.

It's like the whole fruit/vegetable debate, and there not really being a scientific category of "vegetables" that aligns with the common usage. However, in common usage, the loose, lay definition of "vegetable" is far more useful than the scientific, taxonomical one.

Context is king.

[–] naught101@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

Yeah. I've had this discussing with others in different forms, where they are arguing that words have specific definitions..

I would go even further.. My take is that what you said is right, but also, what a given context (like "cooking") is can be very different for different people.. So even in situations where three is really only one meaning for a word (rare, but maybe "broccoli" is an example), the word is understood differently by different people because it has different connotations attached for everyone (e.g. "I love/hate it", "my grandparent used to cook it badly").

Word definitions are like the lowest common denominator consensus version of those individual meaning, but they are changing slightly all the time as people change. Dictionaries are just documenting that evolution, but are constantly playing catch-up.

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] egrets@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (10 children)

Actually, the color is named after the fruit. It wasn't until the late Middle Ages that we discovered anything other than the redcurrant that was red in color. Poppies, for example, were only discovered in ~1917, and we only found out about blood in the 1970s.

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[–] ipitco@lemmy.super.ynh.fr 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Hah! Why do we call black people coloured people then!

Checkmate blackisnotacolorists!

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The source for this is old reddit threads, so hardly authoritative, but supposedly the color orange was actually named after the food item.

[–] Denjin 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes indeed. Before we had "orange", and also "purple" everything was just "red" which is why we have red onions and red cabbage that are anything but red and several species of bird are called red despite being clearly orange coloured.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 13 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

And why orange haired people still have red hair.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Sometimes I learn something that makes me think, how the hell had I not figured that out sometime in the past half-century.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

For some reason, french has a specific term for orange/red hair that's quite old. So we don't have red haired people. I don't know if other languages share this.

[–] cygnosis@lemmy.world 85 points 1 day ago (16 children)

I mean, orange was right there...

[–] NightFantom@slrpnk.net 118 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Which is a colour named after the fruit iirc

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 59 points 1 day ago

It is! We could use redcurrants, blackcurrants, and blackberries though

[–] cygnosis@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A fact that I hadn't realized. TIL.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 points 16 hours ago

Prior to the fruit it was just considered a shade of red

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[–] Jordan117@lemmy.world 57 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] redsunrise@programming.dev 7 points 17 hours ago

right on. this tweet is like saying "there's not a single country in africa that starts with the letter K." there obviously is, but it's targeting people who are knowledgable enough to know the answer but not intelligent enough to understand the point of the tweet.

[–] Monument@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 16 hours ago

I’m already married.

[–] razorcandy@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 1 day ago

Just a little fun fact: the color was actually named after the fruit and not the other way around :D

“The word "orange" came into English from the Old French "pomme d'orenge", which referred to the fruit.”

There are still blackberries though…

I think this might have been a joke abstracted to allude to that, without falling for the trap. Oranges were not named after the color, the color was named after the fruit.

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[–] dwemthy@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago

Yellow squash

[–] tino@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

fruits are kind of a dessert, right? so are brownies.

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago

Blackberries

[–] moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 day ago (5 children)
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