IIRC, Spotify watches the system volume and doesn’t pay for streams playing when it’s muted. Physically unplugging your speakers should work, though.
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If you have a desktop and not a laptop, it's always a great idea to get a separate sound controller. Either a dac/amp for nice headphones, volume controls on a wireless headset, or even buy a sound mixer like the rodecaster duo so you can assign independent applications to each physical slider on the mixer. I do that last one and it's such a quality of life improvement if you use your PC a lot.
All of these options can't be seen from Spotify.
I don't think a site can view your system volume. They can however see if a tab is specifically muted https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Add-ons/WebExtensions/API/tabs/MutedInfo
I think the Spotify application may be able to, I assume this is what OP was talking about.
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Interesting, I actually just adjust the volume knob on my desktop speakers so I didn't think of this when I wrote the meme.
But now I kinda wanna see if I can hijack this monitoring it does and fake 100% volume to the application at all times...hmm welp to the mile long project list it goes!
Cut the jack off a crappy earbuds, then stick the unconnected jack into your headphone port
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I was on a team testing multimedia for a while and this was the solution for the big lab full of desktops and laptops running automated tests.
I think if you just use voicemeeter and set it to a monitor as output that should work
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Why not just stop using spotify? You cant possibly stream enough to cost them more then they earn in a month from you using it. Even on mute they can still count you as an active user when it comes to selling ads and promiting themselves.
If you really want to hurt spotify, use one of the services like Soundiiz that lets you export your lists and library, grab a 2 month trial of tidal for $2 and point tidal-dl to download it all for offline use. Get yourself a nice dedicated music player like a classic ipod running rockbox. If space is an issue convert from flac to opus.
If you really, really, want to hurt spotify do what i did and take the above instructions and then also spin up your own FunkWhale pod so everyone can also enjoy that music without giving corporations like spotify a dime.
We arent going beat corporations by using their products "too much", the way to beat them is to replace them with self hosted alternatives.
It's not about using or not using Spotify. It's about getting the artists more money.
Well if thats your goal buy their music or merch, or just send them cash directly, most artists are on bandcamp, smaller artists will at least have a venmo or cashapp you can send to.
Artists arent making their rent money on whatever pittance spotify pays them, you would do more good for the actual artist if you just promoted their work and gave them a few bucks directly.
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Tidal is pretty good for that. Better app than Spotify and better quality too!
I'll look into tidal. I've never used it before.
I'm a big fan of Tidal from my usage thus far, they pay their artists something like 1.3 cents a stream versus 0.3 cents (numbers pulled from my memory and may be slightly off). Plus, the higher audio quality available and the 6 person family plan are nice to have.
Getting the artists more money is ALL about not using Spotify.
Is there a good FOSS service for discovering new music based on taste? I hate a lot of the closed-source algorithm BS that corpo apps force users into, but Spotify winds up doing a fair job at finding deep cuts that I enjoy
You mean something like Last.fm and Listenbrainz.org ?
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Why even use Spotify at all? Isn't it like the worst option in terms of actually paying creators? Even YouTube Music is much better option imho, although the app is unresponsive and a UX nightmare.
I think one of the allures of Spotify is a good algorithm which often recommends niche and small artists according to your taste Edit: after reading my comment it sounds like a fucking ad bot haha
Really. For a long time it’s kept giving me songs which I’ve heard a thousand times. I can’t seem to find anything new
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Youtube is owned by google, who suck dick and are taking an active role in devolving democracy.
Spotify just sucks dick. Also support EU...everyone should move to deezer maybe.
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While that's definitely true it's not like there are any streaming platforms paying artists what they actually deserve. Other streaming services do payout slightly more per stream but they also don't have the number of paying users Spotify has. So you're likely going to make more off of spotify than any other service even if they do payout less per stream.
Not defending spotify though. Them and the record labels are absolute scum. Just making the point that if you want artists to benefit from you listening to their music just buy their music outright. Or go see them live if you can. Don't stream it. Because streaming pays basically nothing no matter where you stream it from.
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AFAIK this fucks with artists, not Spotify.
Spotify doesn't pay artists a flat amount per stream. Instead, Spotify's profits are split between artists based on their streams. A single user heavily streaming is imperceptibly lowering 'revenue per stream' by increasing overall streams but only paying for one subscription.
By playing a bunch of songs, all you do is give those artists slightly more, and other artists slightly less – at least in theory. In practice you're probably not steaming enough to change overall percentages.
So if anything, you are moving profit to support the artists that Spotify is promoting by putting in your 'radio'. Which likely means instead of going to small undiscovered musicians, it goes towards popular established ones that Spotify assumes you'll like.
But since this is probably not enough to move those percentages, you're only messing up your own algorithm.
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They stopped paying out for that after Sleepify in 2014.
That was Vulfpeck, wasn't it? I ought to get back into them.
Jokes on you. They just dilute the royalty payment among all the artists you've streamed, so Spotify's cut isn't really bring affected.
Fun right?
Worse, they start injecting AI generated songs when you're not paying attention and can keep more of the royalties for themselves
IIRC this is already happening, some people are reporting getting AI music in their auto playlists.
Even worse still: you're supporting joe fuckin rogan and the payments music get from spotify are pitiful. you'd have done much better by the artist by cancelling spotify and buying an album or shirt or ticket.
I use Tidal instead of Spoofie
Same price, higher quality audio, and imo a better recommendation feed
I use tidal as well, just wish there was mobile/desktop sync
Excess ain't rebellion.
You're drinking what they're selling.
Your self-destruction doesn't hurt them.
Your chaos won't convert them.
They're so happy to rebuild it.
You'll never really kill it.
Yeah, excess ain't rebellion.
You're drinking what they're selling.
Excess ain't rebellion.
You're drinking,
You're drinking,
You're drinking what they're selling.
Spotify loves you for this. And the artists can't perceive it.
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What is a "spotify"?
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It's an e-commerce platform.
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So you pay Spotify money each month. Do you really think that they are paying artists more than you pay them? Doubt it.
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Revenue is distributed proportionally as a percentage of revenue based on streams relative to other artists, not per stream
I always do this accidentally when my earphones' battery runs out
...doesn't that just give them free advertising credits?
Spotify wants this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sNsrwokPSY
Tl;Dw?
I tried. Endured 10 minutes of a long intro and a lady selling her book saying "um like" every other two words...
I have no info to share.
That's an hour long video without a timestamp bro ;-;
I really thought it said "nutting" instead of "muting". I was so confused and the photo of Hank Hill did not help with that confusion.
RIAA assholes paying more to Spotify and some of that going to the artists isn't the radical act of rebellion it's painted to be, but still acceptable.
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