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[–] Nougat@fedia.io 69 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The Big Dipper is a very small part of the great bear.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 52 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Also those other parts are a lot more visible when there's no light pollution like 2500 years ago.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Those extra stars don't really make it more bear looking.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Than just these seven? They absolutely do.

[–] Seleni@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Looks more like a drunk person drawing a stick horse to me

[–] remotelove@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 months ago

Where the fuck were you 2500 years ago? We could of had some kick-ass names and backstories for our night sky.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

How many long tailed bears were around in Ancient Greece? I saw a backwards interpretation that made more sense where the tail becomes the eye of the head.

Here's an actual photo of the night sky with all the minor stars. There's nothing there that even squinting gives the appearance of a bear.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 11 points 2 months ago
[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What's funny is it very clearly see a bear there.

Not sure if I'd be able to make it out in person, but the image makes it so very clear to me.

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What? That's clearly a giraffe

[–] Hacksaw@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

It's a schooner.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 33 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The bear name for those stars predates the ancient Greeks.

There's no known origin. It's present in languages of people that were separated at least 13000 years ago.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 12 points 2 months ago

some of our star stories go back 100k years. see: the Pleiades.

[–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 months ago

This user knows how to star-party!

[–] Naz@sh.itjust.works 28 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] CoopaLoopa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago

The Medium Saucepan is my favorite constellation.

[–] SnekZone@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Hjalamanger@feddit.nu 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes, it's the karlavagn (the Karl wagon/cart)

[–] lime@feddit.nu 2 points 2 months ago

the man wagon

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 22 points 2 months ago (4 children)
[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 11 points 2 months ago

If you look at it without tons of light and air pollution, as the ancient Greeks would have, there are so many stars you can make a constellation look like anything you want.

[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yup. While the bear with a tail is still kind of weird, Ursa major is one of the least weird constellations. "The Big Dipper" is an "asterism" according to the grad students at the planetarium I took my daughter to.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Also it at least used to be identified as a medieval push hoe.

Isn't it also known as "The Plow" in some parts?

[–] threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I still don't see a bear. Which way is it facing?

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 2 points 2 months ago

To the right. Muscida is its nose.

The tail is a bit long and it's missing an arm.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

bear lore from Björn

[–] PineRune@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Norse people: it's a wagon! It's Odin's Wagon!

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Or that of Karl, whomever the fuck that is 🤷

(It's called Karlsvognen here in Denmark, which means Karl's wagon)

[–] Hjalamanger@feddit.nu 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Same in Swedish, Karlavagnen ("the Karl wagon")

But its definitely a wagon, like who would think it's a bear?

[–] Uruanna@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

They didn't think the big dipper was the bear. The bear is much bigger than the dipper alone.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

Greek dudes who have had a shitload of retsina? 🤷

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] Karl@programming.dev 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

No, it's a bear's dih

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

More like em-bear-assing yourself while deep in the Retsina..

[–] flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

I don't know my northern hemisphere stars, having never seen any, but that looks exactly like what we call "the pot" down in the southern hemisphere.

Your point still stands, but your example couldn't be shooting yourself in the foot any harder

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I've always seen it as a kite

[–] niktemadur@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

That would be the rump and tail of the bear.