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Trump is eager to breach Mexico’s sovereignty to attack cartels, officials say — just don’t call it an invasion

A new directive signed last week by President Donald Trump gives the Pentagon authorization to use military force against Latin American drug cartels designated as terrorist organizations, according to administration sources.

A U.S. official familiar with the matter confirmed to Rolling Stone certain details regarding the Trump-signed directive, which was first reported by The New York Times. Other knowledgeable sources, working in or close to this iteration of the Trump White House, say that unless Mexico gives Trump what he wants, this administration is serious about attacking its neighbor to the south. And according to administration officials and others familiar with the Trump administration preparations, it’s not a bluff: This American president wants to violently breach Mexico’s sovereignty — if and when he feels like it. He, after all, effectively campaigned on doing so during his 2024 bid.

Just don’t call any of this a plan for an invasion, U.S. government officials implore.

Speaking about the new directive, a senior administration official says, “It’s not a negotiating tactic. It’s not Art of the Deal. The president has been clear that a strike … is coming unless we see some big, major changes.”

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[–] deathbysnusnu@lemmy.world 10 points 1 hour ago

Stole this gem from another thread.

[–] rozodru@lemmy.world 9 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

ok as a naive Canadian can I just ask...What's the point of saying "Epstein list" over and over?

I know he's on it, you know he's on it, everyone knows he's on it so if/when it does come to light that he is INFACT on it and it's proven in black and white...then what? he gets removed from office? someone starts an impeachment process that goes no where? cause all the other motions for impeachment have worked out well. Or he and his administration and the rest of the GOP simply ignore it and continue on their fascist path.

I just don't understand it. Based on what I've seen and read nothing would happen.

[–] JustARaccoon@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

It's hope that MAGA will turn on him once they see the list, because him not releasing them is actually frustrating quite a few of them who voted with this as their primary issue when trump was using it as a platform.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 2 points 1 hour ago

Never has the world witnessed such a wave of the stupidest people suddenly changing their minds because of a new piece of evidence. Oh, it would be amazing!

My instinct is to say I'm not holding my breath. But in this case, since it's not just the ordinary people involved but some of the spreaders of propaganda, I can at least imagine a plausible outcome where this one sticks. And by "plausible" I mean in the sense of a meme of Dr Strange holding up one finger towards Jim Carrey who replies "so you're saying there's a chance."

[–] southrydge@lemdro.id 3 points 1 hour ago

Basically my same thoughts as an American myself. But the MAGA crowd is honestly tiring and annoying, I try to be in the middle about everything but MAGA is a cult, a very misinformed and arrogant one. I would love to see things go back to pre-MAGA. It's made this country more divided than ever (not that it wasn't before, but it was tolerable). I think the era of social media and it's algorithms has made both sides be so hostile towards each other, there's a great documentary explaining why, called The Social Dilemma.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I think that Mexico's government and the cartels might actually agree to set aside their differences. Trump and his goons would send all Mexicans to death camps, regardless of whether they are actual criminals.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 3 points 1 hour ago

God damn, through his psycho filter Mexico probably just looks like trillions of dollars of tropical beach front property that needs to be cleared of the natives and any other dangerous wildlife.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Certainly Vlad gave his fucking sock puppet more advice on the subject during his visit to Alaska.

[–] lack@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago

Wait, are you trying to tell me that this is some sort of diversion by Donald Trump, the convicted rapist and close friend of Jeffrey Epstein? That Donald Trump? The one who bought a teenage beauty pageant and constantly stormed in back stage to peep kids? The one who, in a complete 180 pivot from their campaigning, is moving heaven and earth to divert attention away from the Epstein files? I... I need a minute to process all this.

Epstein list

[–] moseschrute@lemmy.ml 14 points 10 hours ago

Excuse me, but I couldn’t help but notice we haven’t released the Epstein files

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago

Well, now we know the cartels have a copy of the Epstien list, or at least the receipts from their transactions.

[–] Bluewing@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

Shit children, every military has plans to attack everyone else on the planet-- friend or foe. It's what they do when they ain't got no real war to fight. It's just none of you here have ever noticed. And by tomorrow you will have forgotten about it again.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 8 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Not trying to defend Trump, but war plans are standard. Militaries and leaders are supposed to think of different scenarios and contingencies. The US drew up plans to invade Canada should there be war with Britain back in the 1920s and 1930s.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_color-coded_war_plans?wprov=sfla1

[–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 12 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

So you just didn't read the whole thing, or what?

Speaking about the new directive, a senior administration official says, “It’s not a negotiating tactic. It’s not Art of the Deal. The president has been clear that a strike … is coming unless we see some big, major changes.”

[–] possumparty@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 9 hours ago

Mexico isn't NATO either so nobody will come to help them beyond material support.

[–] Event_Horizon@lemmy.world 52 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (2 children)

I'm going to paste here a comment I made from 10 months ago

Ya know I realise this is complete conspiracy theory.

However, I'm still willing to give a 2-5% chance that if Trump gets back into power, within the last 12-18 months of his presidency he'll declare a special operation into North Mexico to 'secure the border', 'stop the illegal immigrants' and 'remove the drug cartels'.

Then he'll claim it's too dangerous to hold the election, or not appropriate, or whatever excuse because of the special operation. And then he'll postpone the election with the approval of the SC as a presidential duty and therefore not illegal.

And I know this is insane but every time I ask myself "would trump attempt something like this?" The answer is always "yes"

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[–] ProtonBoy14@lemmy.ca 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Event_Horizon@lemmy.world 9 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Thing is, this isn't even an amazing prediction. Every tin pot dictator follows the same script

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

The distractions are getting more ludicrous daily

[–] nymnympseudonym@lemmy.world 120 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Imagine a timeline where the USA, Mexico, Canada, Europe, and the rest of the world's democracies that at least try to be diverse, equitable, and inclusionary... were all working together to minimize friction among their liberalized economies and cultures.

We'd be a spacefaring species within a generation or two.

Mexico is owned by the cartels. They're not a free and fair democracy anymore, and should not be included as one.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 88 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Its too bad we spent the last 50 or so years chasing the dragon of profit and letting it divide us. Profit. Some shit we made the fuck up.

Even the original space race was about ICBMs and intelligence gathering satellites.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

As per Star Trek lore, we’ve got to nuke ourselves to near extinction first :/

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[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 10 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

The DoD draws up attack plans on every country. I would be more surprised if this didn't exist.

[–] Aqarius@lemmy.world 7 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's practically an exercise for the operations people. The news is that there's interest in putting it into action, not the plan itself.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 1 points 53 minutes ago

Personally, I wouldn't be surprised if Trump ignores those existing plans and just bum rushes the border, without any logistics whatsoever.

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[–] aramova@infosec.pub 37 points 23 hours ago

Trump is eager to breach Mexico's sovereignty to attack cartels, officials say - just don't call it an invasion

It's a Special Military Operation. When the Mustard Mussolini is done fondling Putin's balls he'll have him explain how he pulled it off.

[–] Ilixtze@lemmy.ml 57 points 1 day ago (12 children)

Who's going to stop the American nazis?

[–] onslaught545@lemmy.zip 52 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] baldingpudenda@lemmy.world 58 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Cartels been killing judges and politicians for decades. They don't do it in the USA because they don't want that type of heat on them. If the US invades, I'm sure they'll start.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 1 points 50 minutes ago

Plus, the hiring standards and practices of ICE makes it incredibly easy to do sabotage. Masks, unlicensed cars, firearms, no need for badges nor warrants, bounties to pay for operating expenses, and no need to explain anything. It is a wet dream for anyone who wants to engage in overt operations.

[–] ieatpwns@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

Don’t do that. Don’t give me hope

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[–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 17 points 22 hours ago

Wikipedia defines an invasion as:

An invasion is a military offensive of combatants of one geopolitical entity, usually in large numbers, entering territory controlled by another similar entity, often involving acts of aggression.[1]

Attacking Mexico would be an invasion.

Just don’t call any of this a plan for an invasion, U.S. government officials implore.

Go fuck yourself. It's an invasion.

Team Trump Is Actually Drawing Up ~~Attack~~ Invasion Plans for Mexico

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Anything to avoid releasing the Tacostein files.

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 2 points 13 hours ago

worked for netanyahu

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago (2 children)
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[–] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wasn’t this the Plot of one of the Tom Clancy movies where Harrison Ford played Jack Ryan?

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[–] wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Good thing I don't live in Texas anymore. They're gonna get the shit terrorized out of them in response. This asymmetric stuff gets nasty and the US won't be able to identify good hispanic from bad hispanic based on color alone.

[–] habitualTartare@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

What makes you think they'll even try to?

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Yes, their plans and everything else that evacuates from this turd circus are awful, but bear in mind they’re not very good at anything at all. I’m sure the plan is to land at Belize and drive up in unmarked Penske rental trucks.

[–] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 14 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I'd back a cartel if they assassinated Trump et al.

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