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[–] xyguy@startrek.website 1 points 5 days ago
[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 65 points 1 week ago (14 children)

ill never understand how "married women are expected to change their name to their husband’s" is still a thing in the 21st century

[–] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 62 points 1 week ago (3 children)

To me, the real issue is that the entire process is one giant double standard which is built on that expectation. At least it is in the US.

If a woman wants to change her last name to her husband's, it's fairly easy. She can just mail a form to the Social Security Administration and use her SS card to get a new photo ID.

If a man wants to change his last name to his wife's, he has to hire an attorney and get a court order.

[–] chellomere@lemmy.world 47 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I guess this is the US of A? Here in a northern European country you get the option when you marry to keep your names, combine both, only keep the husband's or only keep the wife's.

Now that's the way to do it.

[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

In Spain, since the 16th century, the wife keeps her last name, and father and mother last names are used, the order of which can be changed.

Also, after your 18th birthday you can change it to whichever order you want.

[–] TheDoozer@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I've wondered, though, what happens when the kid gets married and has a kid?

When Juan Acevedo-Rodriguez marries Mariana Cortez-Garza, what is their kid's last name?

Edit: disregard, I should have kept scrolling, someone already answered my question.

[–] PanGodofPanic@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Not to detract from your general point, but no, you don't need an attorney to change your name in (at least most of) the US, especially if you have a reason you can put on a simple court filing like "marriage". It is somewhat unnecessarily complicated by paperwork, but you definitely don't need a lawyer and it isn't recommended to pay for one for something so simple.

I know this because I'm transgender and have changed my entire name, and looked up the process in multiple states.

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You had to do it in multiple states? Or was it a One State to Rule them All situation? Serious question, by the way.

[–] PanGodofPanic@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I looked into the process in multiple states cause I was moving around from state to state at the time I wanted to change it, and while I'm originally from Michigan and would have to go through them for birth certificate changes (so yes, kinda one state to rule them all), the rest of the legal name change process is done wherever you currently live.

Oh, sheesh! That's tough! I hope you were able to get it done and registered and that you are now called by your heart's name.

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[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 17 points 1 week ago

It’s even worse in Japan, where married women are legally required to take their husband’s name. (There is mounting pressure to reform this, though the conservative ruling party is dragging its feet.)

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (15 children)

It’s easier that everyone in the family has the same surname imo

So the kids get double surnames?

Do their kids get quadruple surnames? Where does it end?

[–] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The Spanish system is superior:
FirstName(s) Parent1LastName Parent2LastName

To clarify it's the first last name of both parents, and you can choose the order with the condition all children of same parents must have the same order.

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Just pushes the issue down one generation…

[–] callyral@pawb.social 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Parent1 B C, Parent2 J K

Makes Child1 C K

(or Child1 K C)

...

Parent3 B A, Parent4 J H

Makes Child2 A H

(or Child2 H A)

...

Child1 and Child2 become Parent5 and Parent6

Parent5 C K, Parent6 A H

Child3 K H

(or Child3 H K)

...

it seems to work pretty well (ends up preferring people with two surnames, which is an ok amount of surnames)

[–] TaTTe@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

flamingo said, a couple comments up, that it's the first last name of both parents. So Child1 should be B J or J B, Child2 should be the same and Child3 should hence be B B, B J, J B, or J J depending on what 1 and 2 chose. Right?

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[–] TriangleSpecialist@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I agree with the fact that it's easier for everyone to share the same name, especially when one parent travels alone with the kids. It's such a faff (with good reasons) if you don't have the same.

The issue is more that it's often assumed that the wife has to take the husband's name by default, rather than it being ultimately a choice between the couple.

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[–] Mmagnusson@programming.dev 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Icelandic patronyms like to have a word. You can have a 4 person family and nobody has the same "last name"

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Which, like most Icelandic peculiarities, is adorable, but doesn’t scale well, especially with the pool of available names being restricted by the Naming Committee (in Iceland, it is illegal to give a child a name that is not on a list of approved names). With under 400,000 people in the country, and almost no family names, Icelandic phone directories apparently list people’s nicknames as well, so you don’t call the wrong Gunnlaugur Þóraresson by mistake.

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[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

where I live, kids still usually take on their father’s name (sometimes the names are combined), but the mother almost never takes on her husband’s name. so yes, usually the mother will be an outlier in her family, last name wise.

i don’t think mothers were i live are less connected to their family because of it, tho

(altho, personally, i still don’t like the fact that it’s expected for kids to take on their father’s name, it feels like a relic of a shitty system better left in the past)

[–] krull_krull@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago

Here, there is no surname. every name is a given name. Yes, even something like Abdul Juan Michael Obama Pierre can be a full given name of one guy.

[–] Acamon@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Couples I've known who both had double-barrelled surnames before marriage generally combined one of the names from each of their names to create a new double-barrelled name, which is what their new family and kids use. E.g. A-B marries X-Y and they become B-Y or X-A or whatever.

Sometimes, the missing parts of the surname get given to specific children as middle names. Which is a nice way of acknowledging older family members without burdening your kid with an old or boring name.

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[–] BurntWits@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

I find it weird that it’s an expectation but I don’t think it’s weird that some women like to do it. My wife wasn’t going to change her name, but decided last minute to take my name because she wanted to share a name with any kids we’d end up having and we both agreed we’d want our kids to have my last name. Now we almost have our daughter (our first) and she has no regrets. But I wouldn’t have been upset if she kept her name. She’s got a far cooler last name than me anyway. Maybe I should’ve taken hers. Oh well.

[–] BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

It makes my work maintaining computer systems a nightmare. Mary Smith changing to Mary Taylor makes my job harder. At least on these CoTS systems, and without notice.

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[–] hypeerror@sh.itjust.works 59 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'd love to see Trav hyphenate and have Kelce‐Swift on his jersey. It would anger all the right people.

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago

For maximum triggering he should put her name first, Swift-Kelce. Plus whenever commentators talk about him it'll always sound like they're complimenting his speed.

[–] rishado@lemmy.world 47 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I am so damn tired hearing about this stupid engagement. If the goal of this post is that we're going to talk sexism and feminism, the last way it should be done is through the lens of an out of touch idolized billionaire

[–] SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

T Swizzle is the American equivalent of a Royal now...

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 week ago

So that's why Trump is envious then

[–] Zizzy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 36 points 1 week ago

All billionaires are evil. All of them.

[–] JakenVeina@midwest.social 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Is this gal not aware that taking your husband's name is optional? Yeah, she's probably not gonna, but if she does, it's be disrepsectful NOT to call her by Kelce.

[–] StopSpazzing@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

She can have a stage name be her maiden name. Not a big deal.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sounds like she worked so hard she would still be this popular even if she wasn't her daddies little "entertainment investment"

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 6 points 1 week ago (5 children)

her parents entertainment, once had to explain people on a sub about her, said she was from well off upbringing, her entire career was engineered by her parents.

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[–] Rooty@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Where do people find the energy to stan for pop singers?

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

parasocial fans, i heard there is a subset of fans that believe shes is a lesbians, and would constantly try to explain away her hetero-relationship as a "album track". Also parasocial fans are something else compared to just a regular "mega" fan defending her music.

[–] sepi@piefed.social 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

dril has been posting a ton on Bluesky for as long as I’ve been on there (eight months?)

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 3 points 1 week ago

Has he enabled Bridgy Fed?

[–] BreadOven@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

I hope so. He's hopefully even stronger now due to the black mold.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

"20 years ago, I was a 300lbs man who touched little kids. I ate nothing but Subway for a year and now I'm an incredibly popular and cute woman with a career in the music industry!"

[–] Quibblekrust@thelemmy.club 6 points 1 week ago

Ok, her name is taylor.swift now.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 5 points 1 week ago

Hats off to Susan Sarandon for keeping the name of her first husband forever after their divorce.

[–] misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago

Taylor Swelce

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