So is this like .... RGB Clippy or something?
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Follow this guide and you’ll be grand: https://youtu.be/JxPsKhJGTrs
Yesterday I’ve installed Bazzite (as a dual boot) for the first time. As a long time Windows user, Steam Deck convinced me lots of previous problems are solved now.
It’s the first ever I’ve installed a Linux Desktop distro willingly. And so far it’s working very, very smoothly even with my complex set of hardware.
https://yearofthelinuxdesktop.net/
Good resource for those needing a bit of convincing and/or hand holding.
If AI allows one to cheat in games, I don't think I'll play online anymore.
Copilot! What is the race and sexual orentaion of the player who headshot me!?
Copilot: "That's a great question! XxX_420694ever_XxX's race is "pounding" and sexual orientation is "yo mama", would you like to see this player's achievements?"
It's time to nope the fuck out of the Microsoft ecosystem altogether, if not already
I missed the time when AI in games refer just to the NPC's programming, and Cortana is only a character in Halo.
Reading old game reviews or game development blogs and books where AI was just pathfinding and decision trees is something special.
If the new Marathon makes AI the heroes instead of the villains I’m gonna be so mad.
The new Marathon isn't gonna release.
We can only hope
The Marathon AIs weren't all bad.
Leela meant well but was completely outclassed.
Durandal had been rampant since before the first game and only reached some degree of stability once he stole that Pfhor ship. He was basically designed to be unstable. While he was certainly an asshole with rather loose morals, he also made sure that Leela could warm humanity about the Pfhor and that his S'pht allies got what they wanted. He's on the verge of being an antihero.
Tycho... Well, we only saw him after the Pfhor rebuilt him and that version of him is pretty clearly a villain.
Thoth was barely conscious until he merged with Durandal. I can't say much about him. He is possibly involved with altering the timeline after the W'rkncacnter was released so I'd book him as a good guy.
(I am mad at the new Marathon but for different reasons than the AIs.)
I prefer to not bloat my gaming experience anymore then I have to, and I already get get annoyed when I'm playing on Windows and haven't completely disabled that said Xbox game bar.
I think my line stops with in game overlays. Steam and most emulators have that, and that's kinda fine to me (adds to the console feel). I just don't want AI draining my resources as I'm playing, that's asinine, and MS doubly so since they're a redundant layer on top of my overlays.
They can use Gaming Copilot's Voice Mode to get assistance with in-game tasks, ask it to recommend new games to play, check their achievements or their play history, and more.
"A major step in Xbox's journey to bring these AI-powered experiences to players is rolling out: Gaming Copilot – which provides recommendations, help, insights and more – is officially coming to Windows PC and Xbox on mobile," Microsoft said.
OK, so like what? "Jarvis, what's the solution to this puzzle?" or "Jarvis, how do I complete this quest?"
Like, is it gonna replace looking up guides?
I can see this being useful to achievement hunters instead of having to repeatedly alt-tab to see what's left, but how often does the typical player look up guides?
And what is the end goal? Essentially turning it into a cheat engine that plays the game for you?
This would not benefit me one iota
I'm currently playing No Mans Sky and the game throws so many random items your way without any indication as to what it's used for. I have containers upon containers full of things I've never used because I have no idea where or when to use them. I could google and end up in a fandom wiki where I'll get wrong information because the page is missing information about the last X updates that have changed what the thing does. In that scenario I could absolutely see a use case for gaming AI where I don't have to waste my time getting the wrong information as the AI can instantly tell me that wrong information.
But more realistically I could also see AI being used to help people get from nothing to a meta build, because most games that have meta builds have guides only for what the meta build is and no explanation how to get to the meta build or what parts of the meta build are important. That's why you see people blindly imitating meta builds and then getting absolutely obliterated because they have no idea why the meta is meta. AI could fill in those blanks while playing the game. I guess it could even be abstracted to just helping follow the meta meta. Like for instance in CS2 if you're an average player and you have no idea how the rounds flow the AI could tell you "the opposing team has X economy, buy Y and be aware of Z", which technically isn't cheating as it's just game knowledge, but IMO it's borderline cheating.
I could come up with ideas how AI could be used by the average gamer, but all those ideas kinda expect AI to be actually useful and I'm not sold on AI being that useful.
I agree on the mechanics.
Game wikis and meta knowledge result from experimentation and lead to communities. Any game with a following organically develops this community and it's part of the creativity that makes a game worthwhile for long-term players.
AI would simultaneously rely on that community's knowledge base while precluding the players interactions with that community. These communities are already strained and AI adoption spells death to a games development because of this increased isolation. Veteran players and the communities are simply the best way to generate market interest in a game without a giant budget.
If a developer produces version 1.0 and this cycles through, the Dev has a hard choice about any patches that impact meta. Will the players get frustrated because it giant play the way there told it should? How will the AI understand the new stuff?
These thoughts aren't fully fleshed out but it seems to me that AI game assistant would hurt small developers, hurt gaming communities, and concentrate the market even more on those with the biggest marketing budgets.
With the meta point I didn't think AI would be the one figuring out the meta, I seriously doubt AI could be that intelligent.
I imagined a scenario where the veteran/hard-core crowd of any game community figures out the meta but AI consumes the steps of how we end up in such a meta and then spits out that information to the average gamer so they could follow the steps into the meta. It would affect communities because there would be less of a reason for the average gamer to partake in a community but I doubt it would be some sort of a death knell for communities or game development.
Bring back clippy have it appear when you’re stuck on something “looks like you’re stuck on this puzzle. Want me to lower the difficulty for you cause you’re bad at this game?”
"Looks like Savage Beastfly is wrecking yo ass. Want me to help you git gud?"
Probably will be pretty useful for disabled gamers. I know a quadriplegic that plays games and this would be a godsend for him.
Probably, yes. I just wonder what kind of mass appeal this may have, if any.
Can‘t wait for that bubble to burst
I mean yes and no. It will be great when it's not crammed down our throats but also not so great when the economy collapses under the realization that they've been investing hundreds of billions of dollars in an industry that will never ROI.
it's bursting now. within the past few months to a year I've made more money switching my focus from freelance/consultion dev work to, essentially, a freelance digital janitor targeting AI. I get clients that desperately need to fix the slop they've produced and have me code review it to see how practical that is (9 times out of 10, it isn't.)
The calls/emails I'm getting from potential new clients are becoming more frequent on a weekly basis. People are panicking. And I know when it finally does finish bursting that it's going to be hell out there. So since I'm now making more money than ever I'm saving AS MUCH as possible because I hope to come out of this shit on the other side and retire.
To other devs potentially reading this, Get good at code reviewing and start leveraging that. it's a skill that IS in demand right now and will be for awhile. Just the tech bros on linkedin are unwilling to admit it.
Yeah bubble will burst, any day now---
And they said AI wouldn't boost business. Who's laughing now, haters?
The whole thing is just embarrassing. Anyone with a bit of understanding knew that the technology comes with huge risks (after all, there is no understanding, just the imitation of it). Billions have been poured into a glorified autocomplete in one of the biggest corporate FOMOs I can remember. Nvidia is (as much as I hate them, rightfully) laughing all the way to the bank. Crypto and now this allow them to practically buy Intel - back when AMD bought Ati, people speculated it'd be Intel buying Nvidia! Granted, Intel did their part too, but Nvidia selling cards that will be completely outdated in two years in unthinkable amounts is wild. And the best part is, except for them, everyone else lost money, like not even OpenAI themselves are making any, and this is with Microsoft subsidizing them. Absolutely insane!
Different industry, but in my graphic design business I've had a couple small jobs fixing/finishing logos people tried to make with AI. Sounds like you're getting a lot more, but I've been seeing this too.
Honestly this is the first post I've read in days that gives me any specific hope for the future.
Considering the state of the job market, you shouldn't have any trouble finding help.
Switched to Linux. Don't miss windows. Shit like this does not entice me.
Who asked for this? Beyond Microsoft executives who want to justify their paycheck, I mean.
Though really there might be good entertainment value for a few streamers out there. Use it on a niche game or a fairly complex one and laugh at the inevitable hallucinated bullshit as the assistant pretends to know about it.
Edit : just read it was on a "list of supported games". Booo. Cowards.
Microsoft rolled out an AI chatbot for minecraft a few weeks ago and it is completely useless (unless you are asking about the marketplace). I feel like you won't even need to be playing a niche game for it to hallucinate.
Wow the thing is pathetic.
These features get built because Microsoft and other tech companies evaluate staff on “AI use” and building AI features.
That means everyone has to build AI shit or get put on a PIP.
Yeah, I am sure that's what happened too. That's part of what I called executives justifying their paycheck, because it's a direct consequence. Make sure everyone below gets in on the program, or get rid of them.
Fantastic, then maybe it has the potential to be very confidently wrong about everything!
Get a silk bag from the graveyard duck to live longer!
I've played the first two Discworld point and click games. Let me tell you, I might have believed you if you told me that was a true hint for the first one.
Even knowing the books it got its inspiration from won't help you with some of its "puzzles".
I tried WoW for the first time a few months ago. I was hanging in voice chat with perplexity live mode, asking it about the meta, to give me estimations on gearing up (both money and time) and to give me extra lore context and information about pricing, content per expansion and so on.
I also used it to get instant summaries and info in arena breakout, and help me regain context when I've stopped playing a game for a while (I have to do X quest now, what has happened?).
I'm not going to use this specific thing from microsoft, but LLM are incredible tools for interfacing with non structured data through natural language. The AI assistants are going to be huge.
Can it walk trough game so player can get all achievements ? I bet current zombies would play games like that, keep pad in hands and do nothing.