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[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

So they are lying again. Don't believe them. They love him for now, less regulations, more scams, fuck the worker.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

We will keep him around long enough to privatize Social Security and not a second longer!

This might need to go in leopards_ate_my_face

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 151 points 2 days ago (2 children)

No shit! All these CEOs that bent the knee to trump should suffer some actual consequences.

I'm so tired of idiot CEOs being glamorized. They are not smart. They're wealthy. Tremendous wealth makes you stupid.

[–] P1nkman@lemmy.world 59 points 2 days ago

It should be diagnosed as a mental illness, because it fucking is! I remember watching an interview years ago with some rich ceo, and the interviewer asked what would happen if he lost his job, and he had no idea how his family would be able to eat.

It's a mental sickness. Prove me wrong.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago

I'm totally and completely disgusted with each and every CEO that has kissed his ass and gifted him tributes. These people must face consequences when (if) the dust settles on this hateful, incompetent, divisive administration.

I mean on the one hand, obviously glad to see him go.

On the other, replacing him with JD Vance may be good for business, but it's not good for America, and I think Peter Thiel always planned for him to step in before Trump's second term was over.

That's why Ro Kahnna and Massie joined forces in the House on the Epstein case, and why JD Vance leaked that story to Rupert Murdoch.

I don't think Peter Thiel was planning for the Senate to start looking into his own ties, or big bank ties to Epstein. Even if Trump goes, we better not be willing to let demands about the Epstein investigation leave office with him.

[–] kmartburrito@lemmy.world 50 points 2 days ago
[–] Photuris@lemmy.ml 70 points 2 days ago (5 children)

They should say this publicly, instead of behind closed doors.

Cowards. We won’t forget.

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It's because it's not true. Capitalism is in crisis. It's rate of profit will fall and Americas entire economy is dependent on finance and oil capital. Both of which are in crisis.

The oligarchs gave power to the fascist to protect their profits. The tarrifs are nothing more than a war on the working class.

They will enjoy the free labor from the concentration camps.

The only CEOs that care will be the ones who's companies fail as the concentration of capital continues. These tarrifs and other policies are designed for just that. To benefit the top oligarchs that align themselves with the fascist.

Don't expect the capitalist to be the ones to fight Fascism. They will lose to big capital that aligns with it.

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 33 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Cowards. We won’t forget.

Sadly, as a populace, we sure as fuck will, and faster than we should.

Some of us won't forget. 🤜🤛

(sadly the best we can hope for is that enough of us won't forget)

[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'd like to think with trump being such a disaster for everything, that people will write the right wing off, but this is america we're talking about. That won't happen.

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 day ago

After 2020 I thought he was surely cooked. Then after Jan 06 I thought surely no one with sense wants to do anything but run as fast as they can from these cultists, and going into 2024 I thought Kamala isn't perfect but at least everyone finally has trump's number.

Then I woke up the day after the 2024 election:

The sad truth is a huge part of this country is OK with fascism and at least as many seem to be ambivalent. (or were so until sometime after November, 2024)

We might get a temp reprieve again like after WWII until enough of us that are alive now die off, then folks will forget again. That's how we got Israel speed-running Holocaust 2.0 and Trump working hard on Hitler 2.0. The folks who just want bottomless power and wealth never stopped wanting it and the folks who remembered how bad it could get eventually lost the numbers game.

Sorry to sound so damn pessimistic but the one thing I really looked around after decades on the planet and could feel proud of about humanity was that at the very least we were getting better, however slowly.

Now I'm less sure. Now I'm starting to think it's a cycle that's just long enough that most of us don't perceive it.

[–] ch00f@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Publicly, best they can do is gold apple shaped trophy.

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 day ago

Don't forget the penis size compliment, also.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Say it publicly and you got yourself a new customer.

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[–] Tryenjer@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

They didn't exactly keep this private either, otherwise how would we know? LoL

[–] Onyxonblack@lemmy.zip 50 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Fuck that. I don't want old America back either! This Neo-liberal Capitalist hellscape needs to fucking burn down. I don't want to live in a cyberpunk dystopian nightmare either! JFC... Old America created Trump you fucking idiots!

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The thing about class consciousness is it means you need to understand that they will work in their class interests as well.

I don't want old America back either. It is preferable to now that everyone terrifies me. But some things need to change. I'm afraid inequality will only cease with a depression. We'll get one soon though.

[–] Pistcow@lemmy.world 72 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I have no idea why companies go full republocan when the economy sores under Dem. Probably to cause a crash and consolodate wealth and start the cycle over. Pretty sure they flew too close to the sun this time. My wife and I have completely boycott several companies that we have spent thousands of dollars at yearly before.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 37 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Because they want no regulation and all the money. Democrats sure as fuck aren't perfect, but a lot of them want a more equitable division of money and want to tax those who make a bunch. Corps can't have that.

Me too. Amazon was the easiest to get rid.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 20 points 2 days ago

As the other replies said, tax breaks and cuts to regulation. But it's also that they know there's cycles in politics, so they get what changes they want from the right, and then count on the left to fix the economy the next time around. Much like riding the market. The danger is when things go too far and the system breaks. The ~~dwarves~~ corporations delved too greedily and too deep. Now they have a balrog to contend with.

[–] Greddan@feddit.org 5 points 2 days ago

Fascism is built on corporatism. Every profit driven organisation must want it. It's how they're designed to operate.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Most Republicans just give tax breaks and less regulation. Donny is unique in fucking up the economy. "But he didn't do it last time something something."

[–] PumpkinSkink@lemmy.world 35 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I suspect the idea that there's a "backsies" button that can be pressed is delusonal. Whatever comes after Trump will not be the neoliberal realism that occupied the 25 years prior to him. I strongly suspect that the idiocy of Trump's era will give way to less incompetent right wing populism in the west in the 2030s... Maybe that's what they're banking on tho...

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 12 points 2 days ago

Rightwing populism (aka fascism) is incompetent pretty much by nature, though not necessarily as incompetent as Trump's admin has been.

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Do Trump's supporters actually think he has improved the country in any way?

[–] Lyrl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The CEOs in the article cite multiple things they like. The article portrays them as way more mixed in feeling than the headline. I am flabbergasted there are only cracks in party unity and no breakage... but I'll take cracks over nothing. Hopefully they grow quickly.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 8 points 2 days ago

These cracks are between the capitalists and fascists, but here's the thing: The fascists don't need the capitalists anymore. Calling it a crack is generous, even; if anything the capitalists are being abandoned by the fascists whose rise to power they funded. This is buyer's remorse, and history doesn't give refunds.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Once the stock market plummets there will be actual pushback.

If that ever happens. I've been waiting for it to crash since Trump 1.

[–] bigfondue@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

7 stocks make up about a third of the value of the S&P 500. Apple, Nvidia, Microsoft, Amazon, Tesla, Alphabet, and Meta. A crash could happen very suddenly if investors become skeptical about AI's viability to actually create a profit.

[–] stickly@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

For 20+ years it's been (de facto) against the law for the stock market to go down. The only exceptions are pump & dumps to keep the poors out, but otherwise any drop in our glorious free market will be manually corrected by Uncle Sam.

[–] Bassman1805@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Yes. Though for some reason they tend to be very light on detail and basically just cite vibes.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago

Hey a whole lot of you dipshits gave him money because some of you are constitutionally incapable of voting for the Democratic Party.

A lot of you also figured you would benefit from the usual scheming of conservatives, which is massive deregulation, massive tax cuts, breaking labor so that you have a fearful and compliant workforce you can rule over easily, etc.

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 days ago

Look at all the trouble he's causing businesses, disappearing workers, scaring tourists, making overseas goods more expensive, angering foreign customers

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They're not actually going to do anything about it, though. They're just going to complain behind his back, but still go along with everything he's doing to destroy the economy anyway.

Matbe desteoting the economy is the only way to reset. If the billionaires have money and the dollar is worth nothing, then all they have is 330 million pissed off and starving people around.

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 2 days ago

Don't rely on CEOs to save us. That said, it wouldn't be the first time the bourgeoise said "oh, shit, what have we done?"

Fabulous, where are the Epstein files?

[–] misfitx@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Can't put the genie back in the bottle, idiots.

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[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

"We don't like Trump, so we want to go back to the system that produced him, and his voter base."

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

If they really want change they should lobby for fairer systems with better services and greater wealth distribution.

[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Wait till the previous ruling class realizes he holds the levers of power now, not them. His cult runs the show, not theirs. They sold the whole property thinking it was a lease.

[–] apenstaartje@lemmy.cafe 11 points 2 days ago

Only one way.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 days ago

This is called "Finding Out"

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

So is he gonna offer financing for that effort? Doubtful

[–] salacious_coaster@infosec.pub 6 points 2 days ago

If only the poor impacts on business could have been predicted based on past behavior somehow. But I guess if the brightest CEOs in the US couldn't have seen this coming, what hope did anyone else with two eyes have?

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago
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