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[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 7 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

sublime text is $99 for life and you don't even have to pay it and they have zero ai slop :)

[–] kadu@scribe.disroot.org 9 points 3 hours ago

Kate is $0 for life and you don't even have to pay it and they have zero ai slop :)

[–] fruitcantfly@programming.dev 2 points 5 hours ago

That's not quite true: Yes, your $99 license is a life-time license, but that license only includes 3 years worth of updates. After that you have to pay $80, if you want another 3 years worth of updates. Of course, the alternative is just putting up with the occasional nag, which is why I still haven't gotten around to renewing my license

[–] state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

The mail I got makes it quite clear that you have to opt-in if you're using a paid version:

Dear JetBrains AI user,

We are notifying you that on October 7, 2025, we will roll out an updated version of the JetBrains AI Terms of Service. The main change is in the data sharing clause. Previously we said we wouldn’t use your inputs, data, outputs, or suggestions to train AI models. This is still the case, unless you explicitly allow us to do so.

  • For individuals using JetBrains IDEs with commercial licenses, free trials, free community licenses, or EAP builds who do not explicitly consent to the new data collection model – nothing changes.
  • For companies that are unwilling or, for legal reasons, unable to opt in to the program – nothing changes either, and their admins remain in full control.

Important to note that the data sharing is OFF by default on all types of JetBrains IDEs licenses except for non-commercial tier until you change the settings explicitly.

For more details about the change, please read this blog post.

Other updates to the JetBrains AI Terms of Service reflect some recent changes to the JetBrains AI service. For example, JetBrains AI can now be used not only with JetBrains products, but also with selected third-party products. The service also includes a new feature that allows you to upload various content for indexing.

For the existing users, the updates will take effect on October 7, 2025. By using JetBrains AI after this date, you agree to the updated JetBrains AI Terms of Service.

Highlight by me. Personally, I don't see a reason to be outraged. I've even used their AI products and they're OK. They can take over dumb tasks or help me not having to look up documentation.

[–] freeman@sh.itjust.works 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Am I missing something? Non-paid versions also have to opt-in, no?

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

My reading just based on the post above is that none paid versions are sharing by default but can be changed to off. All other versions are off by default but can be changed to on.

I don't understand what the advantage to the developer is supposed to be to let AI scrape their code.

[–] freeman@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 hours ago

I think I misread a statement about existing users not having their changes changed possibly on an update?

For individuals using JetBrains IDEs with commercial licenses, free trials, free community licenses, or EAP builds who do not explicitly consent to the new data collection model – nothing changes.

[–] tomjuggler@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

Does this apply to Android studio?

[–] 33550336@lemmy.world 9 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

I liked PyCharm, but its time to refresh my friendship with VIM.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 2 points 10 hours ago

Try zed with vim mode.

[–] drolex@sopuli.xyz 1 points 10 hours ago

It's a non-mutual friendship, though.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 127 points 1 day ago (2 children)

AI scraping public code tempts me to dump all my projects into github to poison the training data

[–] mectag@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago

this made me laugh way too much

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's love to see what it does with a several thousand line function from my production code.

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[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 4 points 14 hours ago (2 children)
[–] derpgon@programming.dev 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

JetBrains is a company that, creates one of the most popular IDE for many programming languages. Although some of them are free, there is a paid option for 200€ for their full pack for a year (you can pay monthly, and you can choose a smaller pack or individual IDE). Also every year you pay the next one is cheaper.

They also have an AI agent Junie and an AI chat assostant, both currently running on Claude Sonnet 3.5 and 4 (can choose).

They also offer a free AI, which is running locally and can do very simple autocomplete and doesn't support any chatting ability.

However, as you might know, AI usually needs some code to work with. This autocomplete AI can be enabled to run online as well, thus sensing your code to either JB or Claude.

Of course, both chat and agent require internet access (but all this online functionality can be disabled and everything can be connected to custom AI model running locally or elsewhere, except I think agent).

OP is implying that they want money for their IDEs, their AI, and gobble up code fragments.

[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 2 points 12 hours ago

Oh, sorry, I should've been more specific.

I know about JetBrains and their AI agent, etc. I'm wondering if they recently did a switcheroo on their license/privacy policy/something that basically states "all your code are belong to us" now?

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[–] moonleay@feddit.org 7 points 17 hours ago

This is what finally pushed me to move all coding I can away from Jetbrains products. I wanted to to that for a while, because I didn't want to depend on a closed system and wait until it enshitified. Now it happened. Sad to see, but it was inevitable.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 178 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (24 children)

Doesn’t anyone else use things like OpenSnitch to audit all outgoing connections? I block all phone homes until something breaks, then investigate.

If you are trapped on Windows for some corporate reason, there is SimpleWall.

We’re all friends here, and friends don’t let friends let apps phone home.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 hours ago

Lulu is a good FOSS alternative for Macs. LittleSnitch is good too but proprietary (that’s where OpenSnitch got its name)

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 85 points 1 day ago (1 children)

TIL. Don't assume people know about this like that, for many we have never even heard of it, but I'll be using it constantly now

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[–] itsjess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 day ago

I second OpenSnitch. It's the most annoying program i run, but the control it gives you over your outbound connections is so worth it from a security and privacy standpoint.

Once you start and run this you get to truly see how many different URLs are loaded when visiting just one website

[–] littlewonder@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Can I subscribe to your newsletter? I want to hear all your other recommendations.

[–] Carighan@piefed.world 11 points 1 day ago

Can't, all corporate hardware and their software, too. Not my problem, but also not my intellectual property being stolen to be used in AI, so eh, NotMyProblemException.

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[–] e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de 153 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

This is misleading. For people paying for the IDE nothing changed, data sharing remains an opt-in option. For users of their free licenses data sharing was enabled by default. Still a shitty thing to do especially as it hits a lot of OSS developers but lets criticize that instead of creating memes that are misinformation.

[–] TeddE@lemmy.world 76 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You do add important detail, but I'd make the counterpoint that if the corporation is bullying their least privileged users today, stealing their ~~lunch money~~ privacy, they're not going to stop with only them. This is testing the waters for them.

Plus - it's also messed up that they can fundamentally change the nature of the 501(c)(3) donated version and will likely try to claim a tax benefit as though it's equivalent to a paid copy.

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[–] Seefern@piefed.social 34 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

I keep seeing EMacs,Vim, and Neovim recommendations, but I’m out here recommending people use Geany. It’s honestly the best code editor I’ve ever used since its 2.0 version was released. I have it setup with a debugger, an lsp, tree browser, a nice theme, etc. and it’s basically perfect. Free, open source, perfectly customizable, what more can I ask for <3

Edit: just want to say for those ppl already using Vim, it does have Vim mode. So, I think most of the hotkeys should work but I’ve only used Vim a couple times in my life, so I can’t vouch for how well Vim mode works.

[–] Reginald_T_Biter@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

I'm going to give this a try today. My company only shelled out for a kinda shit laptop so running 3x visual studios and DBeaver at once is crippling. This plus terminal might do the trick.

[–] addie@feddit.uk 9 points 23 hours ago

Vim is my preferred 'IDE' for C++, Python, Bash, and general configuration file editing. It's got some big pluses:

  • its text editing is superb once you've mastered it, but that's a small part of its benefits when used as an IDE, and 'Vim mode' in other environments kind of undersells what else it can do

  • Vim has some great plugins for development. YouCompleteMe is awesome for predictive completion and showing docs, but NerdTree for file management and TagBar for showing structure are amazing as well. They're all very configurable and they get out of your way.

  • Vim lives in your terminal window, so you can do splits and tabs using whichever terminal you like. Kitty is very fast and configurable and keeps out your way. Being able to have multiple tabs of Vim open, a tab for compilation, a tab for debugging, a tab for version control, a tab for man pages, and being able to flip between them without taking your fingers off the keyboard makes for a very fast workflow

  • Vim makes it very easy to edit binary files and be precise about whitespace changes, so it's easy to make a minimal change for raising a PR.

If you assign a hotkey to run a macro in Vim, then that can be made very flexible - saving and formatting all open windows, then invoking CMake to do a build and CTest to run all your unit tests can be put on a function key if you like. Trying to tell Eclipse to "just run CMake to do the build" seems to be an exercise in frustration; so many IDEs are terrible at "just getting out of the way".

Work pays for an IntelliJ licence for using Java. Java is so unwieldy without a proper IDE that it's hard to code in it without it. I certainly don't love it, though, and they seem determined to make every new version worse with bizarre new features. Flexible minimalist editing with configurable plugins is all that you really need, and on that basis Geany looks pretty good - will give it a try.

Second that. Mu daily driver now. It doesn't have every bell and whistle but by that same token it is refreshingly lightweight.

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JB is cooked

[–] picklejar@lemmy.sdf.org 33 points 1 day ago (3 children)

OOTL here. What did they do? Can't find anything obvious on their News or Releases tabs.

[–] SchwertImStein@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 1 day ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (9 children)

if you pay you can opt-in to share your code

if you use free version you can opt-in to share your code.

if you are entitled to using a paid version for free (e. g. students, educators) you can opt-out of sharing your code.

EDIT: I was wrong, you CAN out out in the last case, which makes the meme even more stupid

[–] hikaru755@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

if you are entitled to using a paid version for free (e. g. students, educators) you cannot opt-out of sharing your code.

That is incorrect. According to the page you linked elsewhere:

For individuals on non-commercial licenses: Data sharing is enabled by default, but you can turn it off anytime in the settings.

(Emphasis mine)

And for all other cases it's opt-in. No idea how you got from that that you cannot opt-out. It literally says the opposite.

[–] SchwertImStein@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 14 hours ago

thank you, I will correct all my comments regarding this

[–] sudo@programming.dev 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Basically guaranteeing themselves the worst code source.

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[–] limerod@reddthat.com 27 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Fuck sending data to companies. Emacs for the win!

[–] j5906@feddit.org 32 points 1 day ago (2 children)
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