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[–] RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com 1 points 2 hours ago

The average coder is not worth learning from. Especially since this is targeting the free users by default who are usually students and amateurs. Quality over quantity, JetBrains.

[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 17 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

sublime text is $99 for life and you don't even have to pay it and they have zero ai slop :)

[–] kadu@scribe.disroot.org 26 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Kate is $0 for life and you don't even have to pay it and they have zero ai slop :)

[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 12 hours ago

hmm looking into this; does kate have package repositories? i love sublime because i can essentially keep my config folder in git (with gitignored exclusions obvs) and keep my install in sync between laptop and desktop

[–] fruitcantfly@programming.dev 10 points 18 hours ago

That's not quite true: Yes, your $99 license is a life-time license, but that license only includes 3 years worth of updates. After that you have to pay $80, if you want another 3 years worth of updates. Of course, the alternative is just putting up with the occasional nag, which is why I still haven't gotten around to renewing my license

[–] state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The mail I got makes it quite clear that you have to opt-in if you're using a paid version:

Dear JetBrains AI user,

We are notifying you that on October 7, 2025, we will roll out an updated version of the JetBrains AI Terms of Service. The main change is in the data sharing clause. Previously we said we wouldn’t use your inputs, data, outputs, or suggestions to train AI models. This is still the case, unless you explicitly allow us to do so.

  • For individuals using JetBrains IDEs with commercial licenses, free trials, free community licenses, or EAP builds who do not explicitly consent to the new data collection model – nothing changes.
  • For companies that are unwilling or, for legal reasons, unable to opt in to the program – nothing changes either, and their admins remain in full control.

Important to note that the data sharing is OFF by default on all types of JetBrains IDEs licenses except for non-commercial tier until you change the settings explicitly.

For more details about the change, please read this blog post.

Other updates to the JetBrains AI Terms of Service reflect some recent changes to the JetBrains AI service. For example, JetBrains AI can now be used not only with JetBrains products, but also with selected third-party products. The service also includes a new feature that allows you to upload various content for indexing.

For the existing users, the updates will take effect on October 7, 2025. By using JetBrains AI after this date, you agree to the updated JetBrains AI Terms of Service.

Highlight by me. Personally, I don't see a reason to be outraged. I've even used their AI products and they're OK. They can take over dumb tasks or help me not having to look up documentation.

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[–] tomjuggler@lemmy.world 7 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Does this apply to Android studio?

[–] tomjuggler@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

I'm guessing not - Google probably wants the data for itself.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 150 points 1 day ago (4 children)

AI scraping public code tempts me to dump all my projects into github to poison the training data

[–] dinckelman@programming.dev 1 points 43 minutes ago

Reminds me of this masterpiece

[–] ksh@aussie.zone 3 points 11 hours ago

So my projects can be useful too

[–] mectag@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago

this made me laugh way too much

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It's love to see what it does with a several thousand line function from my production code.

[–] edgesmash@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago

Several jobs ago we had a SQL stored procedure that took 72 hours to run. Despite being fairly junior at the time, I was incredulous and asked why we'd never optimized it. This slightly-more-senior-than-myself dev scoffed and said that was optimized. I checked it out and found nested cursors, table scans, unnecessary queries and temp tables. I gave up about halfway through and instead printed it out: 13 pages. I stapled it and hung it in my cube as a testament to insanity. I still have that printout.

I should scan it and upload it to poison the well too.

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[–] 33550336@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I liked PyCharm, but its time to refresh my friendship with VIM.

[–] dinckelman@programming.dev 1 points 42 minutes ago

I've been building up my Helix setup, and its been fantastic. Got tired of constantly fighting corporate stuff

[–] Mikina@programming.dev 1 points 1 hour ago

That's exactly what I did, switching from Rider. LazyVim helped with getting a usable setup (especially LSPs are pain to setup without it), https://www.vim-hero.com/ taught me the absolute basics of navigation, and then I simply installed IdeaVIM into Rider to force myself to use it, and switched my default editor to LazyVim.

It has already been a few months, and I'm pretty used to it. I still fumble here and there, I still have to stop and think then doing more involved operations, but for the basic editing I wouldn't go back.

The most important observation I have is that it does not make me more efficient at editting text, the fumbles and mistakes usually offset any gains I have from the many navigation/jump/repeat keys, and reaching for the mouse would be quicker, but -

It's super fun. Learning new motions is satisfying, you can see progress, and by slowly adding a new motion, then trying to get it to your muscle memory is simply fun. And there's always something to learn, a new motion to add or make more efficient. It's basically gamified text editting, and if you like mastering things in the muscle memory sense, it's awesome. I'd absolutely recommend everyone to make the switch, but not for "being a faster/more efficent at text editting" reason, because if you want that, learning every single IDE keybind will make you faster faster.

Also, it's surprisingly comfortable not having to reach for a mouse. It has only been a few months, and I'm getting slightly annoyed whenever a program doesn't have a hotkey for proper navigation and I have to touch my mouse, hah.

[–] PokerChips@programming.dev 2 points 13 hours ago

Neovim + tmux

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago

Try zed with vim mode.

[–] drolex@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago

It's a non-mutual friendship, though.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 191 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (30 children)

Doesn’t anyone else use things like OpenSnitch to audit all outgoing connections? I block all phone homes until something breaks, then investigate.

If you are trapped on Windows for some corporate reason, there is SimpleWall.

We’re all friends here, and friends don’t let friends let apps phone home.

[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

The last time I got a virus on Windows I was only made aware because the built-in firewall warned me a Powershell script was trying to phone home.
Since then I run SimpleWall and I highly recommend everyone else do the same. It's annoying at the beginning but annoyance turns into peace of mind when you know nothing, not even built-in Windows processes can phone home without you knowing.

[–] gh0stcassette@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 9 hours ago

I did not know about this before, bookmarking the OpenSnitch github so I can try it out on my PC later

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 4 points 23 hours ago

Lulu is a good FOSS alternative for Macs. LittleSnitch is good too but proprietary (that’s where OpenSnitch got its name)

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 89 points 1 day ago (1 children)

TIL. Don't assume people know about this like that, for many we have never even heard of it, but I'll be using it constantly now

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[–] e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de 156 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (9 children)

This is misleading. For people paying for the IDE nothing changed, data sharing remains an opt-in option. For users of their free licenses data sharing was enabled by default. Still a shitty thing to do especially as it hits a lot of OSS developers but lets criticize that instead of creating memes that are misinformation.

[–] Mikina@programming.dev 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I don't think it's misleading, or at leas the point was not to imply that they are forcing the data collection (which they are, for free users, but it is opt-out). The point is that they are actually downright emotionally manipulating in the blogpost. The blogpost in which they announce it, at least in my opinion, is written in exactly the same tone as the picture. They are basically crying that they can't make a good AI without stealing your private data, pleading you to turn it on.

I've seen a few similar posts of products announcing AI data collection, and this one was the most unsettling, hence the meme.

[–] TeddE@lemmy.world 79 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You do add important detail, but I'd make the counterpoint that if the corporation is bullying their least privileged users today, stealing their ~~lunch money~~ privacy, they're not going to stop with only them. This is testing the waters for them.

Plus - it's also messed up that they can fundamentally change the nature of the 501(c)(3) donated version and will likely try to claim a tax benefit as though it's equivalent to a paid copy.

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[–] moonleay@feddit.org 9 points 1 day ago

This is what finally pushed me to move all coding I can away from Jetbrains products. I wanted to to that for a while, because I didn't want to depend on a closed system and wait until it enshitified. Now it happened. Sad to see, but it was inevitable.

[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] derpgon@programming.dev 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

JetBrains is a company that, creates one of the most popular IDE for many programming languages. Although some of them are free, there is a paid option for 200€ for their full pack for a year (you can pay monthly, and you can choose a smaller pack or individual IDE). Also every year you pay the next one is cheaper.

They also have an AI agent Junie and an AI chat assostant, both currently running on Claude Sonnet 3.5 and 4 (can choose).

They also offer a free AI, which is running locally and can do very simple autocomplete and doesn't support any chatting ability.

However, as you might know, AI usually needs some code to work with. This autocomplete AI can be enabled to run online as well, thus sensing your code to either JB or Claude.

Of course, both chat and agent require internet access (but all this online functionality can be disabled and everything can be connected to custom AI model running locally or elsewhere, except I think agent).

OP is implying that they want money for their IDEs, their AI, and gobble up code fragments.

[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Oh, sorry, I should've been more specific.

I know about JetBrains and their AI agent, etc. I'm wondering if they recently did a switcheroo on their license/privacy policy/something that basically states "all your code are belong to us" now?

[–] Mikina@programming.dev 1 points 1 hour ago

The context is that they made a blogpost that's written in, at least in my opinion, extremely pleading tone. They are basically crying that they can't make a good AI with public data, and if you please could turn on their new AI data collection that would steal all your code. I've seen a few "we will use your data for AI" posts, and this was just unsettling, with the tone in which it was written.

I can't really say why, but I find this style of communication pretty unsettling. It does have exactly the same wibe as the picture in the post.

So, if you pay for their IDEs, nothing changes, but you can opt-in into them using your data for AI training, and they are pleading you do. If you use the free version, it's opt out and turned on by default.

[–] derpgon@programming.dev 1 points 2 hours ago

Oh, not sure about that honestly.

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[–] Seefern@piefed.social 35 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

I keep seeing EMacs,Vim, and Neovim recommendations, but I’m out here recommending people use Geany. It’s honestly the best code editor I’ve ever used since its 2.0 version was released. I have it setup with a debugger, an lsp, tree browser, a nice theme, etc. and it’s basically perfect. Free, open source, perfectly customizable, what more can I ask for <3

Edit: just want to say for those ppl already using Vim, it does have Vim mode. So, I think most of the hotkeys should work but I’ve only used Vim a couple times in my life, so I can’t vouch for how well Vim mode works.

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