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Tesla is reportedly planning a reveal of its self-driving robotaxi on the Warner Bros. lot amid widespread anger in the industry over the brand’s controversial CEO, Elon Musk, resulting in a rejection of its cars.

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[-] 01011@monero.town 8 points 1 day ago

Human beings are strange animals. Tesla build quality has been suspect from the beginning. Why was that not the priority before now?

[-] DJDarren@thelemmy.club 13 points 1 day ago

I'd assume it's because Tesla were one of the first to mass market EVs, and Musk's pandering made them seem like a good, progressive bet. Once people were locked into their purchase they don't like to admit that they might have made a poor choice. Or they were aware of the build quality, but figured that the brand was a safe bet, that they'd improve over time.

It's amazing what humans will get tribal over.

[-] EnderMB@lemmy.world 68 points 2 days ago

Honest question. At what point will Tesla execs look at Musk and decide that keeping him at the helm is not in the company's best interests?

[-] exanime@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago

They just decided he should be paid $56 billion dollars for his contribution... So, not anytime soon

[-] sleepmode@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago

The board recommended that shareholders vote to give him his 50 something billion compensation package and move the incorporation to Texas. Shareholders seemed divided on the package award due to his erratic behavior, that there isn’t a dedicated captain of the Tesla ship (among other things such as shareholder governance) - but he got the package.

Hopefully they’re taking a harder look after sales took a massive hit, the Cyberturd launch was a flop and vehicles are filling lots unsold. I’m not holding my breath though.

[-] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

I'm looking forward to the Tesla "Loss" memes.

[-] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago

I mean, he's been doing stupid shit the past decade and REALLY stupid shit the last few years... and yet the shareholders STILL voted to approve his 50 billion dollar bonus from the execs.

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

This suggests that many stockholders are fanboys.

[-] MimicJar@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago

Wild guess, early 2025?

Trump is heading towards a loss. Trump is likely to do some really stupid (and dangerous) things between losing and inauguration. Musk is likely to help facilitate.

He's either going to do something really stupid and just get cut off or quickly backtrack and get weirdly quiet, followed by a "graceful" exit.

[-] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 54 points 2 days ago

I'm not Hollywood, but I was saving for a Tesla. Then Elon turned into a giant douche. Now that money will eventually be spent on a different EV brand.

[-] dan@upvote.au 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Now that money will eventually be spent on a different EV brand.

If you're in the USA and lease instead of buy, there's a few decent EVs you can get for <$300/month with $0 down, like the Hyundai Ioniq 5 and the Kia EV6. Check the deals on https://pnd.leasehackr.com/.

I'd recommend leasing EVs instead of buying them. Depreciation is pretty bad, mostly due to the fact that the technology is changing/improving quite quickly, and the fact that people don't really want to deal with the battery after the warranty expires.

[-] femtech@midwest.social 4 points 1 day ago

I bought the EV6 wh n it came out, the downside I have is I wish the charging port was on the front like my friends hybrid and it doesn't have wireless android auto. But plugging my phone in is not hard, and backing into charging spots is not difficult. Just QoL things.

[-] Magnetic_dud@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 day ago

I have wireless android auto and sometimes I wished it didn't have it, for shorter trips I prefer to have no map, just the car radio, and for longer trips you have to plug the phone to charge anyway because navigation uses a massive amount of battery

[-] JokklMaster@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

Turned into? 10 years ago it was obvious if you had open ears.

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 54 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The "pedo guy" was the mask off moment. Unless you were in the industry and dealt with him first hand, it was hearsay and rumor and at the time, many of us wanted to see a revitalized space program and electric cars. We kinda just went along with his Hank Scorpio impression, thinking it was an act.

[-] Soggy@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Hank Scorpio would be much preferred.

[-] wolfshadowheart@leminal.space 6 points 1 day ago

Scorpio actually has compassion. He just also recognized that a few workers burning alive was steps towards innovation!

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[-] prenatal_confusion@feddit.org 23 points 2 days ago

It took me longer to realize sadly. Was really into the nerdy side of him until he landed the first few falcons. Then I couldn't ignore the bullshit anymore. Sad to say.

[-] mortemtyrannis@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago

It was when he called the rescue diver a paedophile that moment sticks out in my mind. But I have a feeling my opinion of him was changing before that.

[-] b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago

Just glad more and more people are waking up to his bullshit.

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[-] CoggyMcFee@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

Believe it or not some people may not have been investing significant amounts of time into learning about Elon Musk’s personality in 2014

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[-] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago

I have a lot of safety questions about a driverless taxi. Unless the car gets inspected between every ride (doubtful), what’s to stop someone from staying in the car past their stop? Will I get jumped by the previous passenger? What if someone left something dangerous in it? People innocently forget things all the time, which sucks on its own, but malicious actors could easily exploit an unmanned public(ish) vehicle.

Hell, who cleans it? If someone vomited on their trip home from a bar, will I be greeted by their mess when the taxi comes to me? From what I know of people, rules for passengers can and will be swiftly ignored without a driver in charge to make sure the rules are followed. Cameras wouldn’t stop everything, and honestly, who would want to be monitored by a camera throughout a taxi ride?

It’s obvious that Elon’s never ridden in a taxi in his life.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

Sure but those are solvable. Personally I’m nowhere near as optimistic about the self-driving. I hope we eventually get it and current tech is truly amazing but it’s just not acceptable.

So far self-driving has mainly proven

  • driving is all edge cases. Handling normal conditions is only the starting point
  • it’s all about liability. Even if it’s provably safer than human driving, what human will accept their loved ones being killed by a self-driving car and what manufacturer will shoulder that liability?
[-] jonne@infosec.pub 6 points 2 days ago

Those things have cameras inside, they just won't move if another passenger is still inside. There's definitely questions about how reliable driverless cars are from a safety POV, and a future where you don't own any transport and are at the mercy of some private corporation, but the stuff you mention is easy to figure out.

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[-] madcaesar@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago

I'm in the market for an electric car. I won't even consider a Tesla. Mostly because of Musk, and partly because of the shit build quality.

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[-] WhyFlip@lemmy.world 44 points 2 days ago

Musk can suck a dick. What a piece of fucking trash.

[-] thefluffiest@feddit.nl 76 points 2 days ago

Are they also abandoning Twitter in equal measure? If so, great. If not, amateurs.

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[-] Thann@lemmy.ml 79 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

They can't get their cars to self-drive on their own closed-loop tunnel in Vegas, but they're revealing a car with no steering wheel...

[-] FrostyTheDoo@lemmy.world 47 points 2 days ago

Tesla is a marketing company at this point

[-] msage@programming.dev 23 points 2 days ago

Always has been... since Elon took over

[-] uberdroog@lemmy.world 84 points 2 days ago

What's the plan when all the low skill low pay jobs are automated? With each new advancement, it doesn't feel cool and futuristic but sad and distopian. Like we all see it...

[-] APassenger@lemmy.world 61 points 2 days ago

Eventually they end up homeless and then they can be arrested?

I mean, it's not a problem until it's my problem, and then it's an urgent one. Am I doing this right?

If only there was a way to Know the crisis is here...

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[-] oakey66@lemmy.world 32 points 2 days ago

I remember seeing reports that Tesla models outside of the cybertruck have tanked. Goes to show which assholes are still clinging to this turd of a brand. Btw I saw that the panels above the door are glued to the body. Lol

Enjoy your shit cars folks.

[-] elliot_crane@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago

It’s honestly quite sad to see what the brand has become. I have a model 3 that I got back when elon was just weirdo that smoked weed on rogan’s show and made sophomoric sex jokes. My car is a solid vehicle that feels fun to drive. There were a lot of really talented engineers that built a great product. I’d never buy another though.

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