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[–] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago

Is...is this implying you don't get to talk about your oppression when there's someone else who's even more marginalized? Or am I misunderstanding (I hope I am)?

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago

Not pictured: Maggott sitting by himself at his own lunch table.

[–] BearGun@ttrpg.network 119 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Similar vibes to Storm (the incredibly powerful mutant with fully hideable powers who is worshipped as a goddess by some cultures) saying 'we don't need a cure, we're perfect as we are' to Rogue (the mutant who kills everyone she touches).

[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 93 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] LeninsOvaries@lemmy.cafe 9 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

Storm is right. Rogue's powers aren't a disease. Rogue can't control her powers because of mental health issues. The solution is going to therapy, not taking away her powers.

Imagine you have Tourette's and can't stop swearing. Is the cure to Tourette's to cut your larynx out? No! But that's effectively what Rogue is asking for in this scene.

Storm is a little bit wrong. There is something wrong with Rogue. But it's not that she's a mutant. Storm's right about that.

I'm not an expert on the psychotherapy of mutants, but in most superhero media (eg Frozen), you have to accept your powers in order to control them. Storm is helping Rogue. Rogue needs to accept that her powers are part of her before she'll be able to control them

Also, everyone should go listen to The Bright Sessions. It's a podcast about a psychologist for people with superpowers.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

counterpoint: maybe she wouldn't fucking have mental health issues if she didn't posses the power to kill people by touch? just a thought

you're literally just repeating storm's flawed argument, it's real easy to say "oh but your power isn't bad" when you're not the one unable to touch people without killing them.

Why should people be defined by things like that? shouldn't they be free to "cure" it if they want?
People do this same thing with all kinds of disabilities, especially stuff like autism/ADHD. "autism is your super power" very easy to say and it sounds nice, but you don't get to be the arbiter of what's part of people's identity. If someone wants to "cure" a thing you don't think is bad, tough shit! You don't get a say in it.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 19 points 6 hours ago

Do you fucking hear yourself? What a goofy thing to say. Her touch kills people. It's not a minor inconvenience. Mutants deserve medical autonomy to remove their powers if they wish. The cure was pretty magical too. In the movie it wasn't akin to mutilation at all. Besides, if Cyclops wanted to have his eyes medically removed because he believed they're just too dangerous, who are we to judge and refuse? It's none of our business.

[–] Robust_Mirror@aussie.zone 20 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

If I'm born with a 6th finger there's not necessarily anything wrong with that but at the same time if I want it amputated that should be my choice and my right.

Accepting yourself is preferable but I think it's just as valid to make choices about your own life if you can. Whether it's a disease or not isn't the issue.

[–] LeninsOvaries@lemmy.cafe 0 points 5 hours ago

Rogue isn't making an informed decision. She's just trauma reacting. If she were my patient, I wouldn't sign off on a superpowerectomy until she's made a proper effort to come to terms with her power and control it. Right now, she's not fully of sound mind with regards to her power. She needs therapy before she can fully understand the choice she wants to make.

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
[–] HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Event_Horizon@lemmy.world 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Rogue was rough at applying rouge

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

Roguer, Rouger.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 52 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Cookie monster beast got me howling

[–] abbotsbury@lemmy.world 15 points 17 hours ago

Nah that's just how my boy Hank used to look before he turned into dog faced furbait

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 72 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

100% Indigenous Canadian me listening to my light skinned city Indian cousin with 1/8 blood ancestry.

For the record, I am a 100% Ojibway from all sides from my family (there might be one European in there somewhere about four generations ago), I grew up a traditional lifestyle and my first language is Ojibway which I still speak (but I have no one left to talk to in my area). I am a big brown long haired Indian that you can't mistake for someone obviously being different .... and seldom seen as an actual Native person .. I'm often told that I'm Filipino, Chinese, Japanese or my favourite an overweight Thai.

You have no idea how close to home this comic is to me.

[–] otacon239@lemmy.world 35 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

I never got that about Cyclops. If his laser is red, and his glasses are red, wouldn’t that just let the light through? Wouldn’t he need green glasses?

[–] Godnroc@lemmy.world 60 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

Nah mate, the red lenses are reflecting red light, which is why they appear red. If they absorbed red light they would be absorbing incredible amounts of energy every second and heat up super fast. Because they reflect the energy the energy just goes back through the portals to the dimension that it came from. (Canonically.)

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 6 hours ago

see i've always had two pretty massive issues with this: 1) how tf does he see anything if he's got portals in his eyes, and 2) shouldn't there be a constant glow from behind his glasses whenever his eyes are open?
Obviously it's a cartoon and it doesn't matter, but once you try to explain things you kinda gotta come up with explanations for things like this..

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 35 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Editor: Why did you make his eyes red?
Artist: Coz of the lazers, duh
Editor: No, I mean why scientifically?!
Artist: (oh shit oh shit)
Editor: WE NEED TO GET OUR SHIT TOGETHER
Editor: CALL NASA, SPARE NO EXPENSE!
(ten convoluted phone calls later)
Artist: ... and so the force beam reflects forcelessly off the glasses and back into its home dimension where his optic nerve lives....

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 14 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

And it's actually not light coming out of his eyes, but punch energy.

[–] EffortlessEffluvium@lemm.ee 3 points 5 hours ago

Mmmmm…fruit juicy red!

[–] otacon239@lemmy.world 16 points 20 hours ago

Neat! That’s actually cool that it gets explained! I feel much better about that now and can finally sleep after all these years. Thank you.

[–] dutchkimble@lemy.lol 16 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Klear@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

True. He's actualy Bicyclops.

[–] recursive_recursion@lemmy.ca 5 points 20 hours ago

It could be that Cyclop's laser is either being absorbed, reflected, or a mix of both.

Light Absorption, Reflection, and Transmission

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 8 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Okay, Beast and Nightcrawler I know, but is that flamehead aka Cage? Not a mutant if so. And who are the other oddities?

[–] ch00f@lemmy.world 15 points 20 hours ago
[–] Maultasche@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Who is the guy between Beak and Herman?

[–] pezhore@infosec.pub 2 points 16 hours ago

Chamber I think.