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[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 128 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (5 children)

Ah yes. "Muted".

If you should be aware of anything, it should be that if you have an Internet connected microphone the only way to truly know it's muted is to remove it from power.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 58 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 15 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Yep, was gonna post this.

Good luck, this hospital's IT department, good fucking luck.

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[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Some of them have hardware switches

[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago (2 children)

but that could simply be wired to an LED and nothing else

[–] wischi@programming.dev 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

By that logic these devices can have internal batteries too.

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

And ones without internet can have secret antennas

[–] trogon@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

These companies don't even have to go to that much trouble, since people seem to be just fine connecting everything to the internet willingly.

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This. They don't give a shit about the tiny, infinitesimal percentage of people like me and my fellow privacy-conscious lemmings that understand what's going on, care about it, and refuse to participate.

[–] wizblizz@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This is why regulations to reign in corporate bullshit exist, expecting the average person to have even the faintest idea why this is important isn't reasonable.

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

I agree 100%. You shouldn’t have to be a fucking engine mechanic to drive to the grocery store.

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[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The first-gen echo devices at least actually had a board that listened for the activation word only that then powered on the main device. It's why you couldn't name them whatever you wanted, but had to choose between "Echo", "Alexa", "Amazon", or "Computer."

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[–] actionjbone@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 months ago

Preferably, by throwing it out a 6th-floor window

[–] greybeard@lemmy.one 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I had a few Google Home devices, they had a switch to turn off the mic. I assume it was legit switch, because the thing literally yelled at you and had bright red lights any time you muted it. It literally said "The mic is turned off" every time it booted up in a voice that reminds me of a child tattling on their sibling.

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[–] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

You could always get a multimeter and check the voltage outgoing the ADC if you are skeptical.

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 110 points 3 months ago (2 children)

This sign implies they're fully aware of how unsafe it is to have a device like that. SO WHY THE FUCK DO THEY HAVE ONE?!

[–] pneumatron@sh.itjust.works 27 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Oh they're so cool and convenient!!

/s but sadly not /s

I hate this place

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[–] silverlose@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago

I guess it’s a tele-health thing? Otherwise yeah wtf

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 52 points 3 months ago

Please remember to unplug and throw the echo out of the building. Preferably into a woodchipper.

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 47 points 3 months ago

Only acceptable if their mute button is a hammer.

[–] BenLeMan@lemmy.world 37 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Ah yes, the"mute" feature, a.k.a. "I'm not listening, pinky promise! 😇."

[–] Hupf@feddit.org 7 points 3 months ago

Alexa, please unmute!

[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 31 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I worked for a couple years at a residential school where a lot of the kids had significant medical issues (to the point part of our training was on HIPAA). Tons of kids had echo devices, and I spent a significant chunk of my time there trying to get anyone to take seriously the huge privacy risk those things posed.

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Pull the fuckin plug, holy shit. It’s not that hard.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm not even surprised. All your info is being sent around by shady fax-to-email conversion companies using Chinese servers. Ask me how I know--we use them.

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[–] CrayonRosary@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

Why is there a mugshot superimposed on this photo? It's just one of those psychological tests where most people don't see it because they expect the window to be reflecting something and they're just reading the sign?

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 45 points 3 months ago (4 children)

It's the mugshot of Ted Kaczynski, AKA the Unabomber, who was quite famous for having an extreme aversion to technology and how he perceived its role in the downfall of society.

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You know shit's bad when you start to realize Ted had a few good points.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 months ago

Uncle Ted had a lot of good points, he just went about expressing them uhhhhhh

VERY poorly

[–] CrayonRosary@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

Makes sense. Thanks.

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

This person manifestos

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[–] lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 17 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I want such a voice thingy, but 100% local.

Homeassistant is making porgress with this idea, but it's a slow progress.

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's how I feel about AI stuff too. Like, I'd love to "Ghibli-fi" my family like everyone else, but I'd prefer to run it locally rather than hand over family photos to one of these AI companies.

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[–] Tower@lemm.ee 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Same boat. Tools like this and Gemini make managing my ADHD sooooo much easier. Having a JARVIS-esque "AI personal assistant" would make a lot of my struggles less debilitating. I'd even be willing to pay, as long as the data stayed private.

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Tools like this and Gemini make managing my ADHD sooooo much easier.

Can you elaborate on this?

[–] Tower@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

My working memory is terrible. If I don't write something down, it's likely forgotten. I've always tried to keep a pen and paper on me, to varying degrees of success. Now, instead I can "Hey Google, add x to my grocery list" and it'll add it to my shopping list in Keep, or "... Create a reminder/alarm/event for..." for reminders to empty the dishwasher in 45 minutes or remember that I just agreed to plans on Saturday.

I'm not a huge fan of Google anymore, but I still willingly use their services because the tradeoff is that beneficial to me.

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[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I think local voice to text algorithms have gotten pretty freaking accurate. You'd need a way to activate listen, send it over the router, then receive the output signal to an Arduino/Raspberry Pi to switch something on or off. I'm sure it's not terribly difficult to design, but I bet the subscription model is so lucrative no one with the know how would offer a local version.

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[–] GooberEar@lemmy.wtf 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

We had this policy at my last job, but not due to HIPAA. Any time "Alexa" came up in conversations, it was very common for peoples' devices to chime in, telling on them.

Granted, we were in tech, so we were very aware that these things aren't recording everything you say and sending the recordings off to motherbrain nor "spying", per se.

[–] hessenjunge@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

I recall them being caught of being in the possession of recordings they shouldn’t have had.

On top of this the option of not sending recordings to the cloud is being removed just now - so they stopped pretending to respect your privacy.

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