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[–] sfu@lemm.ee 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I can't speak for NY, but...

In Los Angeles I used the busses, subway, and trains for two to three years going to work. For one year it was an hour each way riding 2 trains. After that, it was 2.5 hours each way switching between busses and trains five times.

While I truly appreciated the Metro, it was often not fun. Usually everything and everyone was fine. But, at times I'd be riding with drugged up dangerous acting people. Other times just super annoying people. Sometimes the trains would be packed shoulder to shoulder full of people. And sometimes, in the middle of LA, the train would stop, and say "everybody off" without an explanation, and everyone would exit the train and have to figure out where to go.

Once I was able to drive myself, I no longer had to worry about any of the issues I had before. All I had to deal with was traffic jams. Annoying, but I did feel safer.

[–] turmoil@feddit.org 1 points 16 minutes ago

Yeah, but LA has a shitty public transport system.

Take a look at any major European city. Subway systems with a train interval of 2 minutes that get you across the whole city in 40 minutes max.

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 9 points 8 hours ago

I've never almost died on a bus.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 28 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (5 children)

Driving is the highest-risk activity that the average person engages in on the average day.

It's dangerous, stressful, time-consuming, and expensive. I also think it is a significant contributing factor to our sedentary lifestyles and expanding waistlines. I'm resentful that the decision to go with automobile-based infrastructure was decided before I was even born and that I've never had a viable opportunity to vote against it.

What I really hate is that driving is a privilege. But not needing to drive (i.e. walkability, bikeability, and good transit) are also privileges. Fucked either way it would seem.

[–] bluewing@lemm.ee 13 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

There never was a vote to make it legal or illegal. And it was widely hailed as a great idea at the time. It was considered the best way for large cities to dig out from under the literal mountains of horse shit they were drowning in and that was polluting the ground water and killing children and adults alike from disease. Plus it gave people far more freedom to move about faster and father than they had by foot, horse, or train. Like it or not, the internal combustion engine has given you, personally, everything good and bad that you have at this very moment in time.

But, like most great human ideas, there are always unintended consequences no one sees until they happen.

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Actually, there was a lot of push-back. People weren't too happy that suddenly great big hunks of metal were hurling through public spaces at lethal speeds -- but the car manufactures had money, so the press and the politicians sided with them.

check out Fighting Traffic: The Dawn of the Motor Age in the American City by Peter D. Norton

[–] meowMix2525@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago

Section 1.5 and 1.6 of this article is another great write up if you can't commit to reading a book

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

All of human history has been us solving problems only to create newer, bigger, more complicated problems.

[–] trilobyte81@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Sure but now it is holding us back we need a nationwide high speed train network we are stuck in the 1930s while lots of other countries are in the 2030s

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 9 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I actually like driving for the most part, and I think that I'd like it even more if people who weren't forced to drive weren't driving, and if the people driving were well-trained and medically cleared as safe to drive.

If we had those things I could do a hundred miles an hour on the highway everywhere. It would be awesome.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 7 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I think that I’d like it even more if people who weren’t forced to drive weren’t driving,

I actually don't mind driving so much as I mind driving in heavy traffic. Driving along on an empty road, or lighter traffic at least, isn't so bad.

But society pretty much forces everyone to drive. Even people who don't want to drive or are simply bad at it.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 6 points 10 hours ago

Now imagine if everyone you met on those low-traffic days knew how to zipper merge, and were intimately familiar with the idea of "keep right, pass left." And their cars had to be maintained perfectly to even be on the road.

This training and maintenance is why some sections of the Autobahn have no speed limit.

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