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[–] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Media viewer and the file browser are completely different programs with different support for media file types.

Not that this is an excuse for Media Viewer to not open webp files. Also asking you to pay for h265 support is extra ridiculous.

I just use VLC for everything.

[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 20 points 1 day ago

They are made by the same company and sold as a unified software package under the name Windows 11 [edition]

[–] ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I didn't have time to check all the comments, so here's a backup:

Just install GNU/Linux

;)

[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

KDE Plasma let's me use .jxl files as my wallpaper. I can also take screenshots in .jxl.

[–] rustyricotta@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Same Plasma here. I'm using SHADERS as my background. Currently the Balatro menu shader.

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[–] ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The operating system support for JPEG XL is really there! By now even Windows supports it natively. Not only previews in the file manager, but also in the media viewer.

[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah, I copied a .jxl over to my Windows 11 VM out of curiosity and was surprised to see it opened just fine.

[–] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 234 points 2 days ago (6 children)

This is MS we're talking about. Preview and Viewer are probably made by two different teams in different countries, sharing no code, and prohibited from communicating with each other, even if they know about the other's existence.

And famously they fired all QAs years ago so there's nobody to test before releasing.

[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

And famously they fired all QAs years ago so there's nobody to test before releasing.

It all makes sense now.

There's no QA to bonk people on the head.

Who the fuck's idea was Outlook (New)? Like half the features don't exist. And some of the actually useful new features simply don't work (looking at you," pop-out" reading pane view option. Where's my popped out reading pane Microsoft??? Did ya forget to test it? Turns out, yes)

[–] Theoriginalthon@lemmy.world 101 points 2 days ago

One leveraging the graphics engine from internet explorer the other using the graphics engine from ms paint 1.0

[–] BodilessGaze@sh.itjust.works 75 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

I work in big tech and this is my life. I envy anyone who thinks you're exaggerating, because that means they haven't experienced the joy of spending weeks trying to track down the team responsible for a bug and then months hassling them to fix it.

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 36 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And if they do talk to each other, the different departments need to go through the whole hierarchy for everything and each manager puts their spin on it, so you get answers back from questions that were not asked.

[–] herrvogel@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Here's a real and true story about how separate Microsoft teams communicate and coordinate:

Few weeks ago, some Microsoft team from the US deprecated some critical service used by other Microsoft products. They just shut it off without notifying anyone. Other teams from other Microsoft offices in the rest of the world found about this deprecation when their production builds started failing to log customers in to the applications that they need for their businesses. People were called in from their vacations, emergency meetings were held to play hot potato with responsibility. Clients were PISSED. I stopped following the drama before it was resolved.

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[–] marcos@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Oh, man.

I just stopped being hassled to fix a bug on somebody else's system (that mine interops with), by the same developers responsible for maintaining that other system, because the problem got bad enough to escalate until somebody responsible for both sides looked.

That said, I was just ignoring them. But hell...

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The image viewer is probably just Edge in a trenchcoat by now.

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[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

I loathe windows, but I did just double check because this sounds inept even for M$ -- Win photos will absolutely open .webp, but it's not the default program for whatever reason and it just defaults to edge / your_default_web_browser_here. Which is just impressively on brand for microsoft. Even when they have a feature they hide it to, idk, make themselves look even worse? Why not!

proof

(FWIW this is a clean install, I do not have any non-default codecs installed)

[–] gerald_eliasweb@reddthat.com 5 points 1 day ago

THANK YOU. you just saved me so much time with the knowledge.

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[–] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 93 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Webp is the worst format ever.

Never mind that:

  • it supports transparency;
  • it can be losslessly OR lossfully compressed;
  • it's so efficient it can fit ẏ̷̛̀̏̎̇͜ǫ̷̼̰̳̹́̆̍̐͜͝ủ̷͉̱̻̤̬̯̈́ŗ̸̒ ̸̨̟͈̳͍̱̀̏̓m̵̺͎̋́u̴͇̥͍͐̇̀̇͊̌̚͝m̸̢̢͕̻̬͙̒͗̽͋͆̕͝ in less than 2GB;
  • it can be animated;
  • is more than capable of representing 1:1 any GIF image;

it sucks because the one image viewer I've ever had installed by the ubiquitous (= monopolistic) operating system everyone has by default doesn't support it.

[–] oxysis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I just hate webp because it’s supported in a grand total of 2 programs so it’s just annoying to deal with

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[–] sga 23 points 2 days ago (14 children)

avif is better than it in almost all ways, and jpex xl is even better than that (but not about gifs i think)

webp is essentially a webm file (which is mkv with codec restrictions(vp8/9 and ogg vorbis or opus))

avif is av1 encoded files in a webp like container (but not webm afaik)

jpeg xl is a format made specifically for images

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[–] trk@aussie.zone 25 points 1 day ago (10 children)

Irfanview is the answer.

I don't even know what the question was tbh, but I'm still right.

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 62 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Is this a Windows problem I'm too Linux to understand?

Seriously, everything on my computer -- Firefox, Dolphin, Gwenview, GIMP, etc. -- supports webp just fine.

[–] TeddE@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago

Yes. As someone who uses both, this is a M$ problem.

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 47 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (8 children)

I kept a copy of the old Windows XP version of media viewer/pictute viewer, whatever the hell its generic name was becsuse at some point in, IIRC, Vista, they updated it to some piece of garbage that had an uglier UI, worked slower, had no options for slideshows, and didn't even support shit like animated .gifs.

Even that old ass program can open a .webp image.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 days ago

Yo that was an absolute joke. Were they serious with that?

Windows handled gifs fine for years then suddenly only the first frame. Seriously?!

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[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 39 points 2 days ago (8 children)

I remember when you could’ve made this meme about PNGs.

[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Back when Windows 3.1 only supported BMP and maybe JPG

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[–] shittydwarf@sh.itjust.works 41 points 2 days ago (6 children)
[–] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (12 children)

Look, I was a big fan of HEIF but these days I just want anything better than PNG and fucking JPEG and GIF.

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[–] shantismurf@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I know a bunch about computers and that doesn't add up to me either!! I hate the webp format.

[–] OboTheHobo@ttrpg.network 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Webp is honestly a really good format for what its made to do. That being said, windows support for it is lacking for some reason. I don't know why as it's been common for a long time now.

Also, you can always use ffmpeg to convert to png or jpg or whatever you want. Simple file conversions like that are super easy.

[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)
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[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago

Just use a proper Operating System and silly problems like that will go away.

[–] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Time to screenshot the preview and stretch out the jpeg. Upload it when the time calls, only for the web server to re-encode it in webp. The cycle continues.

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