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[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 10 points 23 hours ago

AS someone Coming from a farm: Leave us the fuck alone with unskilled workers.

Modern farms are usually optimised to minimise the need for human workers. This means, that those that are needed need certain skills. A lot of the required skills can not be learned in a single year just from working on a farm. The only farming sector that still heavily relies on human workers are farms that produce vegetables. Always having to retrain your entire workforce every single year will cause problems and is not worth it for a lot of farms.

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And they and their rich friends will find a way to pay their way out of it

[–] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

They’ll each own one of the farms, and claim that means they work there every day already.

[–] JangleJack@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That picture looks like a tobacco field, which is a dangerous crop to pick. Americans would quit immediately if forced to pick their own.

[–] HiddenLychee@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Supposedly an illness called Green Tobacco Sickness can occur from absorbing nicotine in the tobacco leaves along with heat injuries from working in the fields

https://www.osha.gov/green-tobacco-sickness

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 47 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Are we also nationalizing the farms?

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago

Only the losses!

[–] minkymunkey_7_7@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Next we kill all the birds!

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 day ago

As somebody that worked in a cornfield for minimum wage, it sucks. Your feet get heavy with mud, it's hot, the leaves give you "papercuts". One summer is enough to make you never want to do it again.

[–] HalfSalesman@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I arguably hate Maoism the most of all popular authoritarian left ideologies. So it makes sense to me that irredeemably evil and stupid conservatives and fascists would unconsciously like it's policies.

[–] CriticalThought@lemmy.world 51 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Under this plan, would the farms be nationalized, or would people be forced to work for the profit of private farm owners?

[–] Patches@ttrpg.network 35 points 1 day ago

You already know

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Free labor.

Gavin McInnes even said teenagers should be primarily used for this. This will also be the case when you realize how much child labor laws are being removed by Republicans.

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[–] Fleur_@aussie.zone 27 points 1 day ago

All "right wing" farmers parties are just agrarian socialists with racism and sexism.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 101 points 2 days ago (2 children)

DEAL, however as these farms are worked by the public they should become owned by the public. And the harvest be distributed at-cost to the public.

[–] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

While we're at it, nationalize ~~Monsanto~~ fuckin Bayre I guess. Either that or stop letting them fucking copyright seeds.

[–] porksnort@slrpnk.net 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Monsanto has not existed as a brand since 2018. The name of the new baddie is Bayer, who acquired them and got rid of thae name. Same shitty playbook, but let’s focus our anger on things that exist.

[–] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sorry, haven't kept up with the ever-shifting hydra of corporations well enough I guess 🤷‍♀️.

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[–] psoul@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (4 children)

This but for the police force.

Turn the police into something of a militia, 80% made of constituents from that jurisdiction, picked at random à la jury duty (exemptions apply)

[–] Ricaz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 23 hours ago

As a European I think it's a great idea for USA to enter your proposed perpetual state of civil war

[–] ILoveUnions@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It's an interesting idea, but a proper police force should consist of trained and capable people (unlike the current states one!), of which random selection will necessarily create it so that many are not.

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That is a terrible idea. You already see what happens when they’re “trained”.

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[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago

Nationalized industry that always produces food at cost and pays all of its workers well and fairly would be a great idea so long as the people setting it up aren't completely untrustworthy fucks.

Oh wait

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 56 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Real farmer here(who has never voted red). I don't trust the average American not to completely fuck up any harvest and not to bitch constantly about the heat or dirt. It's bad enough hearing people who work in AC complain about the heat to me.

[–] BoxOfFeet@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I worked on an assembly line making CV joints. The inner and outer races had a numbering system based on measured size. The outer races were honed, and there would be size variations we would have to keep adjusting for. 4 inners go with 4 outers, 5 inners with 5 outers and so on. 4 was the most common.

One shift, on a Saturday, one of the workers used 4s for everything. Some were failing, inspection at the end of the line, but a lot didn't. Well, then the 4s ran out. Since that is the most common size, we were down. She intentionally ran us out of parts by building things wrong, potentially making scrap or defective drive train parts because she didn't want to work on Saturday.

Her job, that she applied for and took, knowing there are times when would have to work weekends. A job with a good union and Healthcare.

I can only imagine the kind of employees you'd get by forcing them to work the fields, for I'm going to guess way less than UAW wages. In the sun. I think you'd see a lot of sabotaged equipment or crops.

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 190 points 2 days ago (5 children)

100% guarantee that those who are proposing this will have some sort of exemptions for themselves and their oligarch friends.

[–] itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml 111 points 2 days ago (3 children)

This is definitely proposed by someone who runs a farm and wants free labor.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

*Squints harder*

Ah, slavery.

But schools place way too much emphasis on academic results. You can be the smartest man alive, but you'll still be paying the "school thicko" to fix your toilet.

[–] bizarroland@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

I wonder how quickly they would change their tune if they were also required to pay appropriate wages for the people conscripted to work on their farms.

[–] Juice@midwest.social 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (9 children)

Bourgeois conservatives are obsessed with 20th century communism. The billionaire class has had its own vanguard since Prescott Bush. Steve Bannon calls himself a Leninist, though I'm not real sure what he means. The Republican obsession with culture war is influenced by Gramsci and his theory of hegemonic power. And the republican strategy of politically controlling cities through rural areas, as in "the country surrounds the city," is a component of Maoism.

Not saying there is an affinity between far right conservatives and communists, I don't believe that there is one. But 20th century communists' application of dialectical materialism uncovered new political dynamics through their work with the masses, and unfortunately the far right learned many of these lessons, though only as a way to gain power for themselves noy liberation for all; while democrats clung death like to liberal idealism and refused to learn anything from the left, since it is the dems job to oppose and keep power from us.

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[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 114 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Who's the "our" in "our farms" referring to? 👀

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[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 80 points 2 days ago (19 children)

Or, and hear me out here: We could pay people a competitive wage for their labor.

I understand the need for agricultural subsidies. The government inserts itself into the normal supply/demand process to protect the general public against a famine.

What I don't understand is why those subsidies don't seem to be flowing past the greedy hands of corporate farmers and into the pockets of farm laborers.

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[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 day ago

LOL, MAGA Communists.

[–] BotsRuinedEverything@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (4 children)

So... Slavery with more steps?

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[–] slickgoat@lemmy.world 35 points 2 days ago (11 children)

I wonder how many rich kids will develop bone spurs?

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[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 57 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Nope. It’s slavery. They want to do a slavery.

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