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How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 129 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

That will surely lower the cost of eggs! I know people say it all the time, but like cruelty is the point. Why do this? There is no savings, no point, it’s just to be a prick.

[–] warm@kbin.earth 51 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Everything he is doing is just to be a prick.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Not true. He's also stealing and grifting a lot of money. Like, this guy was in insane debt before he ran for office... Now I believe he's probably a legit billionaire.

He went to make sure fort Knox had gold the other day... Lol. We know what this guy is doing.

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[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

Russia is a petro state. Need I elaborate?

[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 65 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Fuuuuuuuuck why? He is actively trying to kill the planet?

[–] mjhelto@lemm.ee 60 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

It's called accelerationism. It's the belief that a better society can only come about after a large disruptive event wipes out the current system. Those that survive (lots of billionaires with bunkers) will shape the new society in their eyes. It's real and it's terrifying. Like you I was mystified by the choices of the rich and powerful until I learned about this shit. Now it all makes sense...

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 25 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

They must have watched Fallout TV series and thought "we should do that".

But even if no civilisation ending event happens and billionaires think they could take the helm, people will rise up first. Too many hungry stomachs will not tolerate such brazen wealth inequality and power grab. The only reason that there is hardly any popular revolt yet in America is because many people are still comfortable. Wait until they aren't anymore.

[–] mjhelto@lemm.ee 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Why do you think their focus has been on robotics and AI, even as the consumer bubble has all but burst? As soon as they don't have to worry about being "got" by their own security forces, billionaires will really show how much disdain and contempt they have for the masses and any attempt to rein them in will be lost forever.

Totally just my opinion, though.

[–] Coldcell@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

In that far flung dystopian vision, the billionaire class (in efforts to save some meaningless wealth) would hire the shittiest coders and manufacturers for their death bot army so that some 14 year old geek in Nebraska would find a way to reprogram them all to do Fortnite dances and execute their masters.

[–] mjhelto@lemm.ee 9 points 3 weeks ago

Don't do that. Don't give me hope of righteous retribution for these parasites!

[–] DrDickHandler@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

People won't rise up. Americans are currently losing their healthcare, education and pensions and they are cheering this on.

[–] Tuuktuuk@sopuli.xyz 11 points 3 weeks ago

They are losing those, but they haven't lost them yet. It'll take at least a few years of actually living without them for the people to wake up and revolt. The end of serfdom took from 1860's or so until 1918.

It will take time but it will happen.

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[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 16 points 3 weeks ago

Not even that, it's the religious nutters trying to ponk the apocalypse.

Fun fact: for the theologians they're already at antichrist level

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 weeks ago

Hahahaha

If we truly do lose our modern comfort, tyrants would be the first thing on the chopping block.

Like how it always is, similar to the French Revolution.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Probably so more people are forced to charge at Tesla stations and pump money to Musk.

[–] buzz86us@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

The guy already has a monopoly on smart EVs Fuck Musk open up the US to Chinese vehicles so that he has to sit at the big kids table.

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[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 48 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This is really funny imo.

We are past the time when green technology needs a boost.

We are now at a time when green tech is the cheapest solution.

So these are all theatre, cause green will be the obvious choice for those who think about the bottom line moving forward.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Shikam@slrpnk.net 10 points 3 weeks ago

That's exactly right. These thing were already bought, paid for, installed, and being used. This is just a fuck-you to anyone who cares about the environment. Why? Because if you care about the environment you probably don't support Trump.

[–] firstprimate@discuss.systems 40 points 3 weeks ago

@silence7 Oof. There is going to be hell to pay when the president finds out about this….

[–] houseofleft@slrpnk.net 34 points 3 weeks ago (12 children)

Off topic, but any other non-US people here, how are you reacting to the USA's facism on hyperdrive streak?

I don't think the US has ever been the most popular country, but now the president is trying to eradicate palestine, disrupt European security from Russia, and plunge the world into a climate apocalypse at an even faster than before rate, I feel a lot worse about any interactions with the USA. I've been trying to move away from using anything US produced or owned, which isn't particularly easy.

Is it just me? Was I naive to think US was any better before? Am I naive in singling out the US?

[–] Gloomy@mander.xyz 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

German here. We are 4 to 8 years away from Nazis becoming elected again, at least very likely. I'm looking with horror towards the US and just hope he burns it down so fast that the right shift looses it's current drive in Europe.

[–] bad_alloc@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Nah, we can't rely on external signals doing anything like that. We need to make peoples lives better. The right surge is an emotional rectioan amplified by external propaganda, but fundamentally people are right to protest against the current system which keeps impoverishing them. The conclusion of voting right wing is wrong of course.

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[–] Kaput@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Canadian here, it pains me to admit that my hope at this point is that Trump manages to crash the US so fast that it hits rock bottom before invading us.

[–] Nomecks@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 weeks ago

100% chance we're getting Ukrained if he gets the opportunity.

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[–] NaevaTheRat@vegantheoryclub.org 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Hi, Aussie here. Entirely expected and unsurprising. I mean Hitler learned from the USA.

Been watching the usa destroy everything nice about Australia for my entire life and waiting for the other shoe to drop. Good luck, please don't our government again if we elect another socialist.

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[–] Justas@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 weeks ago

Lithuanian here, a very popular Facebook page keeps posting "Trump is about to wake up, prepare for him saying something stupid" every day.

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[–] Letstakealook@lemm.ee 28 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Everyone is focusing on musk, not realizing he's trumps patsy. He's the goddamn fall guy. He said some true, but unkind, things about trump and trump doesn't forget slights. If this charade starts to crumble, he's going to point at musk and blame him for everything.

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[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 25 points 3 weeks ago

Shameful. Reminds me of when Reagan had the solar panels removed from the roof of the White House.

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] transgendervegan666@slrpnk.net 22 points 3 weeks ago

gods i fucking hate it here

[–] cultsuperstar@lemmy.world 22 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Don't worry, he'll just give Musk another $50 million government contract to redo them. And by "redo", I mean turn them back on.

[–] Broadfern@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Is this going to piss off his boss; Lonely Kumslut? Or is he intending to replace them?

[–] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 26 points 3 weeks ago

Nah, Mellon Husk stands to benefit if other brands' EV chargers close down

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 17 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

These are almost all non-Tesla chargers with a plug which makes them more convenient with other brands.

Edit: fixed who can use the chargers

[–] lordkuri@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

with a plug which can only be used by other brands.

Let's not spread misinformation. Teslas come with an adapter to use J1772 plugs for charging, they can use those stations just fine.

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[–] jonne@infosec.pub 11 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, that's going to be my guess. Rip out the existing ones, then he sells a bunch of cybertrucks to the government and suddenly those chargers need to be installed, but this time as Tesla superchargers.

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[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

This will definitely lower the price of eggs.

This feels more damn petty than Regan taking solar panels off the Whitehouse. Like these chargers were already installed, they weren't costing a damn thing, and now they're going to spend money to have perfectly good infrastructure sit unused. Fucking morons.

[–] DarkSpectrum@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

2026: Tesla stops manufacturing cars and pivots to humanoid robotics, with Ai enabled control and dedicated starlink network.

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[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago

Bet Tesla will place superchargers right outside the government plots. So Musk can cash in on this.

[–] naught101@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago

How are they gonna charge the $400 million worth of cybertrucks they ordered for the military?

Ooooh, haha, I just found this: Trump administration says it has no plans to fulfill $400 million 'armored Tesla' contract - https://www.npr.org/2025/02/13/g-s1-48571/trump-administration-order-400-million-worth-of-armored-teslas

[–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 weeks ago

What does the president think about this?

[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 weeks ago

Lol what a jackass

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

Turnip should sell Elmo's Cyberdump then..

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It just makes no sense economically either. He is screwing over Elon's own company, just to force oil onto consumers. I get the feeling that this administration is straight up doing it for the evilz. Supporting only dictators, telling every lie possible, cutting government agencies that help, while creating new ones to steal your tax anyway.

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[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 weeks ago

That is offensive and sad. Keeping existing infrastructure that makes a nice employee perk has high value. Cost savings on electricity seems like a bs minimal excuse.

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