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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 52 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Even though Trump has now paused tariffs on some products until April, we’re still not about to spend a nickel to prop up the U.S. economy when its president has pledged to destroy ours. We don’t want to be doing any of this, and we know so many Americans who also wish none of this were happening. But this is our reality now.

Yep, that's about it. But it's not just our economy Trump has vowed to destroy, it's our country.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago

He’s trying to destroy yours, but he’s actively destroying the US already.

Make sure your fellow countrymen know that, and don’t allow a wannabe dictator to come to power. It’s still not too late for you guys.

[–] swordgeek@lemmy.ca 46 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I'm Canadian, and I plan to never visit the USA again.

Ever.

There is no "...until" for me. The world without the US is easily big enough for me.

Two places I always wanted to see were New Orleans and Hawaii. The latter might end up breaking away, but New Orleans is probably off my list forever.

[–] tracker@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago

I am with you on that. My regret is not visiting Yellowstone earlier…

Even with the orange turd gone, the people who elected him and empowered the republicans to do this mess are still there…

[–] sloppychops@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago

Honestly, same. I already cancelled Florida and Arizona trips for later in the year and told friends in Phoenix that I'll likely never be back. We'll probably make plans to meet up elsewhere.

This is the republican party now. And Trump may not even be the worst to come. We already see his goons waiting in the wings. Political whiplash is the new normal in the US, and i feel like we will see the division continue to exacerbate over the next few decades for them domestically until something gives.

I hope we in Canada take this new reality seriously and prepare ourselves appropriately as we enter the 30's.

/doomer

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[–] 7355608@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't suppose I, an American, could convince y'all to come down to DC for a Burning of Washington "reenactment" could I?

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

We don't so much advertise when we're coming. Also, as per tradition, we're usually drunk the whole time. It's a whole thing.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 11 points 1 week ago

hey whatever you gotta do. just make sure to properly evacuate dc residents. they're not at fault here, they're primary victims largely

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[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

This is gonna last longer then Trnup is in power. This is a real, tangible, long lasting shift in Canada-US relations. That’s not going to be fixed or restored whenever Trump is out of office. There will be a successor to this US isolationist ideology. The faster we decouple, disassociate and diversify from the US in every way, the better.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 week ago

When you consider that foreign relationships take many decades to forge, it's unlikely that things will go back to the way they were for at least 20+ years.

If it ever happens.

And by then, the rest of the world would have already adapted to a life without the States, and many will be better off for it.

[–] socialjusticewizard@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago (6 children)

whenever Trump is out of office.

I love this kind of optimism.

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He's 78 years old and lives on fast food.

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[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I was planning on visiting this year, but now my US travel plans are filed away alongside the Trans-Siberian Railway trip I should have done in the 00s. As much as there are places I’d like to visit, it’d be like going for a city-break to Munich in 1935.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago

Yep. My mom wants to see hanuama bay once more while she can still travel. #reasons. Remembrance.

We can't go while it's under Trump, so we wait until the US stops being weird or until the Kingdom tries to secede. She won't go before then.

The odds aren't good, but we're hoping she'll still be good to go then; and know she did.

Man, fuck Trump and his merry band of dirt-bags.

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 week ago

I’m American, and don’t blame you one bit.

[–] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I wont go until we can piss on his grave as part of a tourist attraction.

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[–] sunfur82@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 week ago

Honestly, I wasn't comfortable going to the US ever since Trump got elected the first time. This is just another reason to never visit that place again. Would rather vacation somewhere in Canada, or if there's a great travel deal, visit Europe.

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Once you're on the wrong end of the stick, you understand that the US isn't a friend. Developing nations and non-white nations have known this for a long time. The biggest thing blinding the population are US media exports. US marketing is amazing, but now, it's getting harder and harder to market shit.

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

As someone from latam is refreshing seeing that everyone on the world is learning what the US actually is.

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 9 points 1 week ago

I'm not from LATM, but same. I've been telling people for years that the US is not a net positive force in the world and people hold up whatever gadget they have and go "but they made this". Yeah, on the backs of a bunch of poor people that you'll never see nor care about, but because they're not white, it doesn't matter to you.

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[–] BookSnob@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 week ago

Because of my husbands work, we would often have to go out to NYC. I always considered it my second home. I also enjoyed travelling out to the west coast, specifically Manhattan Beach in California.

But theres always Paris to replace that void of NYC and pretty much anywhere else in the Mediterranean to replace cali. A definite upgrade. My husband had left the company a couple years back to start a new company — one based in Canada with some former execs. So we no longer need to go to NYC.

We will never be returning back. And on behalf of all my friends who faught in Afghanistan, America can get fucked.

[–] Rin@lemm.ee 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm honestly too fucking scared to as a foreigner

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

A German tourist took their tatoo pen/equipment on a trip to US. They were accused of trying to work illegally and jailed until the time of their prebooked return trip home.

[–] Rin@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm a programmer and i take my laptop everywhere... i'd be fucked!

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago

First, "Unlock your laptop, or straight to jail". Next, Emacs installed? Obviously straight to jail. Notepad++? Believe it or not, jail.

[–] CaptCanuck37@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

After he’s dead and gone I STILL won’t be returning. Never again giving them a dime if I can help it.😡🇨🇦

[–] WhyYesZoidberg@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

While not Canadian - I’m currently rooting out all US services and products I’ve happily been paying for, cancelling outright or finding other alternatives.

I don’t see myself ever going back to happily buying US again.

[–] sloppychops@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago

I am currently trying to convince my employer to ditch Google and all associated services, as well as the US-based cyber security suites that are currently tanking the performance of all of our workstations. It would be nice if there was an easy replacement for Windows. Linux is a no-go for our IT people.

[–] Ulrich_the_Old@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The only reason I would go to the USA would be to piss on trump's grave.

[–] sloppychops@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago

The day that all the soggy burger-lettuce that's holding him together finally gives out will go down in history as the 2nd time that 'Ding Dong the Witch is Dead' reaches number 1 in the UK music charts.

[–] eronth@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Don't come back. Not because you're not swell or anything, but because we truly won't be better just because Trump is gone. The disease runs deep here, he's just a symptom - an entire party stands firm behind him.

[–] Lemmist@lemm.ee 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I’m Canadian And Love Visiting The U.S.

What is it so interesting there?

[–] imvii@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In the article

As a Canadian, I’m reeling from the unraveling of a relationship I once believed to be unshakeable — a bond between our two nations that felt secure and enduring.

It's about the breakdown between two long time allies by one want-to-be US dictator working in the interested of Russia.

This is a historic moment. The US and Canada will never be the same again.

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The US and Canada will never be the same again

As a Canadian I think, if we can weather the storm without Cheetolini going full "annex" mode, we'll come out the other end better; more diversified and secure in trade relationships, and stronger on the world stage.

[–] imvii@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago

Canada is going to come out of this stronger thanks to Trump. We're working on improving our in-country trade right now. We're well liked in European circles and might end up in the EU. We're building trade with other countries. I'm feeling pretty positive about our future without the US.

If the US continues to descend into madness, we're going to be the country the USA brain drain ends up in. That will only help us.

Of course all of this depends on if the US decides to not go all Russia on us - which is going to wreck both countries.

[–] rational_lib@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I'm American and I don't even wanna be here. Honestly I'd love to be in Canada but for the weather. If Canada were to annex where I live (DC) I'd be 100% in favor of it, America treats us like its bitch anyway.

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[–] Aconite@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yep. Cancelled plans to attend a conference and visit family. Never again.

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[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Last time I was in the US I was in Hawaii in January 2009. Obama was being inaugurated and because of time zones I had to get up early to watch it. Figured it was worth getting up for because it was kinda historical. So I was in the common area of the hostel where the TV was and there were four other people in the room, two women sitting up front, close to the TV, excited about the Obama being inaugurated. And there was a dude at the back of the room cursing and swearing because the stock market was dropping.

When the speech was done, we got to talking. The two women excited about the inauguration were Canadian. The guy at the back of the room angry at Obama because of the stock market (he's literally being inaugurated, he hadn't done anything yet) was American.

Just felt like there was something wrong with that country then and just didn't feel like going back there again. Then Trump came along and he did nothing but reinforce that feeling. Had some small hope they might be able to get past their greed, ignorance, and racism when Biden got in, but that just didn't happen.

Haven't gone there in 16 years, and sure as hell not going there now.

[–] Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago

Not just gone from government, but dead. And none of his spawn in any government positions.

[–] landshark4@lemm.ee 7 points 1 week ago

I am an American and very concerned about where we are headed as a country. We treat all of our allies terribly and now Russia is our friend? Don’t come here-things are too unstable

[–] JiveTurkey@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

I don't blame you.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Funny, I never really liked going to the USA and now, finally, the rest of my family understands

Plenty of better places to go, sadly because of geographical location, it's hard to avoid the USA as a stop when traveling from Canada but I get the feeling this is soon to change as well

Fuck the USA hard until they fix their dumpster fire of government... and no, I don't just mean "elect a democrat", update your bible and get a real democracy going

[–] puppinstuff@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago

There are many other countries worth visiting who contain a lot less people who are voting to walk over me to take my stuff.

[–] smontanaro@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

We'll miss you, but believe me, we totally understand.

[–] Litebit@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I am not from Canada but I work with client all over the world and have raised my rates for US clients by 25% + 5% buffer due to instability. I also raised prices on digital products I sell on US owned marketplaces.

[–] KingGordon@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

For the Canadians here. If i as an american wanted to come visit and spend money in Canada now, what would the reception be like?

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hi, you’re welcome. Just don’t wear maga hats or US flags. Or make fun of our country as being a state or our leaders as governors. Our beef is with Trunp, his supporters and those who didn’t bother voting.

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[–] Reannlegge@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago

Do not expect your money to be exchanged at a store, do it yourself at a bank or money exchange.

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