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[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 151 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Everything is driving distance and simultaneously, America is "too big" for high speed rail

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 72 points 1 month ago (1 children)

High speed rail would make such a difference. If you tried to make the same trip as pictured with Amtrak, you'd probably be looking at double the travel time at least.

[–] stinerman@midwest.social 35 points 1 month ago (2 children)

25 hours from what I can tell. And you can't take the full trip with Amtrak or at least they don't give an itinerary for it. You have to take a bus somewhere to hit the train.

[–] IndiBrony@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not sure about you, but I don't want any of my buses to hit a train, thank you

It's better than the train hitting the bus though.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And due to how Amtrak's scheduling works (because freight rail is prioritized over everyone else), you're likely getting that train at a bad time days before the game. If I wanted to catch a train from my home to Chicago, my only option is Thursday at 4AM. Outside the Northeast, you're lucky to get one passenger train a week from your major metro, if at all.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Then people see this and go "see no one uses the train so why should my tax dollars go to fund it"

Imagine if we let drivers have 1 day per week to use the highway, suddenly they might not think their taxs are worth it for the service they are getting.

[–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 93 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Are these the same people that defined "nearby" for linkedin? Because I keep getting emails about openings "nearby". The daily commute may be 8hrs, but that's nearby, apparently

[–] BambiDiego@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Reminds me of researchers on the ISS getting "hot singles in your area" ads

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 9 points 1 month ago

If you say you're willing to relocate it basically starts giving you job listings on the opposite side of the planet. Usually in a country where the national language doesn't even use the same alphabet.

[–] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 49 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'm not even American but I don't see anything extremely out of place here. A 12h drive is doable in one day with a couple of rests. Assuming you stay for 2-3 nights at your destination.

If you mean going back right after the game, then hell no.

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Bingo. Especially if you have a group of 3-4 that help split fuel, it's immensely cheaper and arguably more fun. Plus, you're not restricted what you can bring with you, you can stop to eat wherever you like, and you already have personal transport when you arrive. But, like you said, it's really only worth it if you're staying a few days. If you're just going somewhere for a night and need to get back the next day, flight all the way.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Road trips with friends make driving bearable. I'd never drive 12 hours alone (again) but I'd jump at the opportunity to do something like this...just not for sports

[–] L0rdMathias@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

People tend to underestimate the scale of the US. The distance from (what appears to be) Oklahoma City to Cincinnati, is roughly the same distance as driving from Brussels to Warsaw.

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

It's actually Oklahoma City to Indianapolis. Cincinnati is the dot directly to the right of the word, not the destination above it

[–] L0rdMathias@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

Good catch, all these dots look the same to me.

[–] shininghero@pawb.social 31 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I once drove that long to get to a convention.

Never. Again.

Just because you can drive for 12+ hours, doesn't mean you should. Next time I'm either planning two full days for that sort of driving, or taking a plane.

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Midwesterners don't just drive 12 hours for a weekend trip. 8 hours is the max for that

[–] Sc00ter@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

Personally, i typically dont want to do any more than 5 hours for a weekend trip

[–] capuccino@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Sorry but I had an image in my head of you driving wearing a cosplay for more of twelve hours

[–] grysbok@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 month ago

I once wore my costume home from an out-of-state larp. It was comfy, but I did get some stares while pumping gas.

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 3 points 1 month ago

My father once flew me to a private Star Wars con in a small sports plane. Of course I had to wear my Emperor costume for the entire trip. But then again I did get greeted on the airfield with a purple carpet and a limousine blasting Force Commander's Imperial March remix.

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[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago

My last convention was 20 minutes away, I was sooooo happyyyyy. I’m done commuting hours to go to cons. I’m too old.

[–] SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

I met someone from Kansas and they talked about how it wasn't so bad and that they still can vacation to see cool places.

Then they talked about their 12 hour road trips to Wisconsin and Southern Texas and it made me feel kinda sad for them!

Road trips beat commercial flights though imo

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago (2 children)

There is a certain minimum threshold before bothering to take a flight becomes viable, and that's if your flight is about 3 hours long or more. Otherwise you may as well drive if you can, because the amount of time you spend getting to the airport, getting fondled by the TSA, checking in, waiting to board, standing around in lines, waiting for your bags to show up, renting a car at your destination, etc. all adds up to be the same as just driving. It's not actually any faster to fly when it still takes all damn day.

And then you can bring all your knives or weed or liquid bottles more than two ounces or whatever it is you're into without getting thrown into Gitmo and when you arrive you already have your car (or motorcycle).

[–] stinerman@midwest.social 4 points 1 month ago

I'm going to Montreal next month and we're driving because the flights from Columbus aren't that much faster.

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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I need to travel from the east coast to Denver and the only reason I’m flying is because work wouldn’t let me file a mileage expense for a couple thousand dollars.

[–] stinerman@midwest.social 6 points 1 month ago

My wife works for the state and had to go from Columbus, OH to Detroit, MI for a professional conference. That's about a 3 hour car ride.

She's not allowed to take a personal vehicle to go. State vehicles are not allowed to leave the state. She had to fly there. She said it was easily slower to fly when factoring in getting to the airport, checking bags, etc. than to drive.

[–] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If it takes 4 hours to drive, I rather take a plane

After 12 hours of driving a car you're exhausted and could've gotten in an accident

If the plane tickets were cheap enough, I wouldn't even think twice.

[–] Sc00ter@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

If youre going on a full family trip, those tickets add up quickly. Not to mention if you're going to a place like the beach and youre bringing beach toys for the kids, it makes so much more financial sense to drive. In addition to just travel to get there, youre also looking at a car rental, some way to either bring car seats on the air plane (this sucks) or pay more money to rent them when you get there.

I flew across the US with a 5 and 3 year old. It was fucking miserable. We also werent risking missing a connecting flight (because getting them to a hotel would have been an abomination) , so we made sure that we had plenty of time on our lay over. Spent a whole day to travel

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

The key is to split it into two or three days of driving.
One 12 hour stretch of driving is miserable, but I've taken a few days to drive to some remote destinations and when your goal is 4 hours for the day you don't feel any pressure to skip a detour to see something interesting, take a longer lunch or do an extra rest stop just to shake your legs. You just need to set your expectations that the drive is part of the trip and not just the preamble.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Europeans : The Arsenal - Chelsea games are too far to drive between

[–] IndiBrony@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

And anyone who thinks otherwise clearly hasn't driven in London

If you want a game that's possibly within driving distance, you're looking at Liverpool v Everton

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

maybe I should have put in spurs, since they're rivals.

[–] FuckFascism@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I can confirm I'm from Missouri. Though to be fair where I live the closest major city is more than a hour drive away. Excessive driving is just an unfortunate part of life in the Midwest shit hole.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 11 points 1 month ago

Lived there, can confirm. Then I visited actual modern countries and they look at a distance like that and are baffled that there hasn't been built a high speed train already. Why would you drive 10 hours when you could sleep, read, or watch TV on a train for 6 hours instead?

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

The Midwest is so flat, it's basically gagging for some tracks all over it.

I imagine the main concern was if there's enough population to use it effectively but that's surely not an issue now.

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[–] sundray@lemmus.org 14 points 1 month ago

Tolls?!

Forget it.

[–] Eat_Your_Paisley@lemm.ee 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

TBF some of us like road trips.

I'm a Floridian that spent the last 20 years living in Europe now that I'm back to the states I'm making up for my lack of road trips in the last couple of decades.

This winter I was making the trip from VA to SW Michigan ~10-12 hours one way twice a month, now that my parents are back in MI I do it once a month.

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago (4 children)

If it was train trips, I think I’d really enjoy them, even if they were 1.5x as long. Legroom, card games with travel mates, traveling to the drinks car, etc.

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[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 month ago

Purposely looking for a place an hour away from any towns. Europeans would have an aneurism!

[–] And009@lemmynsfw.com 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] pigup@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

In the us: zero passenger train noises

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's really incredible how easy HSR should be to build for most of the country and how completely hard it would fuck for so many people. Instead, we do unlimited airline shareholder subsidies and rebuild eight lane interstates every ten years

[–] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I did do about 11h drive, from Reims to Nice; wouldn't do it twice :/

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[–] Albbi@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 month ago

I'm getting a 46 hour drive if you wanted to do the same with the NHL hockey finals. Quite a trip across North America.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 6 points 1 month ago

Honestly if it gets me out of fucking Indiana and doesn't dump me in a red state, I'll take it.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

"Possibility," in that you can get from one to the other before the next game starts, and even sleep a bit, sure.

"Legitimate," I dunno. Assuming the series goes to seven games, that is almost 3,000 miles to put on your car in a month. There's nothing "legitimate" about that.

[–] Voyajer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The family used to do trips of similar length seasonally to visit family in the Northeast and South depending.

[–] DrBob@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago

Well there aren't any flights.

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