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[-] slurpeesoforion@startrek.website 85 points 1 month ago

Not only does he give money. He votes.
Remember that when you decide to skip an election.

[-] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 40 points 1 month ago

Or throw your vote away on a spoiler that only benefits fascists.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago

naw. Fuedal is the tax guy shows up and demands payment. this is something else.

Maybe it's a Fin-dom kink?

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I dunno, I feel like the hierarchical nature of feudalism is more core than tribute extraction. The lord needs the support of his loyal vassals, while the loyal vassals only need their lord insofar as they crave a ruler over themselves - or over their despised peers, for which they are willing to sacrifice money and dignity, and sometimes even their lives.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

It would be awfully hard for a vassal landholder to get the kind of materials that they can’t produce on their own. Iron, tin, copper, lead; depending on the area, lumber, as well.

There was also the military presence keeping the brigandry in check (including from other feudal lords.)

Vassals also exchanged military service for land. (And the serfs that came with it!)

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

It would be awfully hard for a vassal landholder to get the kind of materials that they can’t produce on their own. Iron, tin, copper, lead; depending on the area, lumber, as well.

Yet most fiefs during the height of feudalism were autarkic, and engaged in minimal trade, much less redistribution from their overlord.

There was also the military presence keeping the brigandry in check (including from other feudal lords.)

Considering how rampant brigandry was, dunno how valid that is. As for other feudal lords, those are, of course, the peers they despise.

Vassals also exchanged military service for land. (And the serfs that came with it!)

Land could not simply be revoked in most feudal systems, though, and was more often inherited than granted by the overlord.

None of your points are wrong, necessarily, but I don't think they're major compared to the core pillar of "I trust my overlord to oppress me only a moderate amount, while I don't trust my neighbors not to oppress me a much greater amount, so I would like it very much if my overlord would just oppress everyone. I'll lick his boots for it." It becomes especially apparent in Bastard Feudalism of England and in the later feudal system of Japan in which land revenue, rather than land itself, was what was granted to many warrior-vassals.

[-] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago

They still needed land, though. Trump's promise of fossil capitalism might resemble that land, but the whole comparison shakes a bit.

[-] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 2 points 1 month ago

I agree here. Feudalism to me was a system to maintain order by splitting the kingdom into essentially vassal states that worked relatively independently through a kings central government rules.

[-] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago

The funniest thing about this is Trump won't stop grifting them. Every month is something new. Trump trading cards. Trump shoes. Trump NFTs. Like the moment Harris tries to sale me shoes, I'm out. But these people can't afford medical care because their Republican state government cut their benefits, so now they are going to send money to a guy who is selling NFTs... Enough said.

[-] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

But, but... That $100K watch is awesome!

[-] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

The important thing is that he hates brown people just as much as they do.

[-] LovingHippieCat@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago

This is something I see a lot with the houses that have Trump signs in my area. They always have a multitude of run down cars, a house that is falling apart, a bunch of stuff in their yard that are not lawn ornaments, and occasionally are fenced in. It's pretty consistent and they always have Trump signs and flags even though voting for Harris would likely help them afford to fix up their cars or house.

[-] DemBoSain@midwest.social 26 points 1 month ago

I think the fact that Harris would help everybody is the dealbreaker.

[-] LovingHippieCat@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

Oh 100%, they don't want minorities to benefit from it so they'd rather fuck themselves over than allow everyone to have a better standard of living.

[-] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

Maybe it's a post hoc ergo procter hoc, ie. the run down property, and voting for Trump, are both symptoms of the same thing: That life's been hard, that they are in over their heads, and that nothing seems manageable anymore. (Doesn't it sound an awful lot like undiagnosed neuro divergence?)

Maybe voting for Trump initially was an f you to the intellectual elite that "are keeping them down"? After a while it became part of the identity. And now they may not have much going for them, but they have their savior Trump.

I just noticed that both previous paragraphs starts with "maybe", that wasn't planned, but it doesn't convey my own doubts.

[-] index@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 month ago

But this is necessary because wealthy people keep society away from war and chaos, right?

[-] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago
[-] CptOblivius@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago

Because he is convinced they are on the same team. He is just a temporaryly embarrassed millionaire. He might get his too. Spoiler, he won't.

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

nah, he just wants to fuck over darker skinned people. that's why he has the loser flag.

[-] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

He is just a temporaryly embarrassed millionaire.

If mental healthcare were more widespread, available and good quality, a lot more people would really be something like that. Many of them not embarrassed anymore.

There are reasons our current time is so ... overloaded with junk and depressed. A lot more threats to one's mental health and triggers for otherwise less notable conditions have emerged, but everyone was like "it's just the Internet, common sense doesn't apply there, it's all toys and not real".

My comments are a good example of someone who would be stronger (not a millionaire, I'm afraid of power) should they go offline completely. Quite lonely though and unable to scream out my opinions about civilization going to hell at least in text T_T.

There's such thing as critique. We usually talk about it as something good. The issue is - in society there's your side and the other side. It's just life and humanity. When you allow yourself to feel too much shame and guilt, or allow your approval of actions of your group to replace your own action, dropping your own "me" and the responsibility of that "me" stemming from there being no justification for your position except your decision only - you lose.

Parents 20 years ago would teach their children to say "no" and to stand tall, but they didn't have to explain how it scales for Internet echo chambers because there were none. Ultimately there's only you. You can't do anything, even think, without taking full responsibility. Internet communities make that appear contested, but in reality it isn't.

That's the most important problem of our time. The rest people standing tall and taking responsibility for everything they do will fix.

[-] lars@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 1 month ago
[-] ResoluteCatnap@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago

For scale but they forgot to include the scale

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Not sure tbh

[-] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

Honestly even with the current situation, I'm seeing call for donations and aid to the affected States who have been hit hard this week. But I think to myself, why should I help these people when they are voting for politicians who are literally refusing federal aid, cause they don't want to look like they're accepting Biden's help. Now my poor ass is s donating to people who are refusing aid at the same time. I hate it

[-] BetaBlake@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

That's kind of narrow minded of you, not every person in the south is a trump loving conservative. That's the same kind of thinking they have when wildfires affect California, or pandemics hit cities more than rural areas, you have to be better than them and more open-minded.

Also Asheville, which is now flooded, is one of the most hippy liberal cities in the country.

[-] Breezy@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I confirm that ashville is super hippy. If ypu havent been there then im sorry for your loss

[-] litron3000@feddit.org 2 points 1 month ago

Don't donate then?!

[-] tee9000@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Because despite political bullshit there are good people suffering. And even if you dont see some of them as good they are people and dont deserve the arbitrary harsh treatment only imagined in polarized social media echo chambers.

[-] Sculptor9157@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

Is it arbitrary if they voted for the situation they find themselves in politically and financially in the wake of a disaster that would otherwise have been eased by the social programs they abhorred until needed?

[-] tee9000@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

So easily radicalized? You cant know the "proper people" are dying to your satisfaction, you asshole. This is what devisive disinformation does to people on social media; you are practically advocating for the death of people that MIGHT be against your political beliefs. Look farther than your computer screen. Be a human being.

[-] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

Just a variation of the Prosperity Gospel. They think they will become rich if they just give this rich guy more money.

[-] 7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 month ago

Pardon my ignorance... Who lives in this house?

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago
[-] 7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 month ago

Oh. Idk that I've ever seen a picture of his modest house. Lol

[-] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Dunno, the first photo seems a nice place to live except for the racist flag.

But then it's probably not a big chance to get a girlfriend or an interesting job while living there.

But then again, girls are strange - some of them care about glossy appearances less than they seem to, and jobs are strange - some of the pretty good ones can be remote. Both may not work too well with that flag though.

I'd say without the flag I'd choose the first picture. I like nature. The second picture causes some kind of nausea I can't describe.

[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago

I mean with all those hurricanes the man's probably drowning in insurance premiums alone!

/S

[-] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

been to serf city. not going back

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