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Summary

Elon Musk has called homelessness a “lie” and “propaganda,” claiming advocacy groups profit from maintaining high homelessness rates.

Partnering with Donald Trump, Musk is pushing for drastic federal budget cuts targeting programs for vulnerable populations, including food stamps and healthcare.

Trump’s plan includes forcing unhoused individuals into treatment or institutionalization.

Critics argue these approaches criminalize homelessness while ignoring root causes like lack of affordable housing.

Homelessness in the U.S. has reached record levels, with 650,000 people affected in 2023, prompting calls for evidence-based solutions over punitive measures.

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[-] PoopSpiderman@lemmy.world 232 points 6 days ago

Homelessness couldn’t possibly be the result of late stage capitalism though, right?

[-] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 128 points 6 days ago

It's a result of any stage of capitalism

[-] UpperBroccoli@lemmy.blahaj.zone 222 points 6 days ago

Elon Musk is a certified piece of shit.

[-] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 35 points 6 days ago
[-] Alteon@lemmy.world 41 points 5 days ago

We've all agreed that cunt is not suitable to describe him as, per the Internet, "a cunt has warmth and depth"...two qualities that Elon clearly fucking lacks.

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[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 28 points 5 days ago

Wow, I didn't think I could hate him more. But - here we are.

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[-] asteriskeverything@lemmy.world 72 points 5 days ago

“What you actually have are violent drug zombies with dead eyes, and needles and human feces on the street.”

Yo this is the most cartoonish out-of-touch shit take I've see. In an election that accused a disenfranchised minority group of eating people's pets!

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[-] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 75 points 5 days ago

What an objectively evil thing to think, let alone say.

[-] Allonzee@lemmy.world 37 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Market Capitalism needs homelessness.

If you will not make the owner's money through labor, You will help them make money as capitalist scarecrows. A warning to any laborer thinking of failing to comply.

You WILL serve the owner's greed disease, or else.

It would literally be cheaper to house them without conditions than all the conditioned programs and homeless encampment clean up costs.

But that doesn't send a message of fear.

Herp derp Freedom 🇺🇸

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[-] tengkuizdihar@programming.dev 51 points 5 days ago

How far up the ivory tower do you need to be to ignore homelessness by denying its existence?

[-] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 39 points 5 days ago

It’s an old old myth. Ronald Reagan said that everyone who is homeless in America is by choice since there’s so many shelters and charities already. It’s incredibly out of touch, but today people like Musk brag about their ignorance.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 45 points 5 days ago

So... You think people who are homeless are just lying about not having a home?

Can we check this fuckstick for brain worms or just if his brain looks like swiss cheese?

[-] monotremata@lemmy.ca 15 points 5 days ago

It's so much worse than that. From the article;

“Homeless is a misnomer. It implies that someone got a little bit behind on their mortgage, and if you just gave them a job, they’d be back on their feet,” he told former Fox News personality Tucker Carlson in October. “What you actually have are violent drug zombies with dead eyes, and needles and human feces on the street.”

Basically, it's not the "homeless" part of "homeless people" he thinks is a lie.

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[-] Nougat@fedia.io 81 points 6 days ago

Is there going to be room in the detention camps for the homeless?

[-] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 72 points 6 days ago

Instead of Jews, it's Hispanics. Instead of gypsies, it's the homeless. And instead of trans people....well that one is the same.

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[-] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 24 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Sir, you can't sleep here.

"Didn't you hear? I don't exist."

[-] MagosInformaticus@sopuli.xyz 69 points 5 days ago

"Have they no refuge or resource?" cried Scrooge.
"Are there no prisons?" said the Spirit, turning on him for the last time with his own words. "Are there no workhouses?"

[-] Infinite@lemmy.zip 35 points 5 days ago

"If they would rather die, they better do it and decrease the surplus population."

Fuckin' hell, fiction is a warning not a guide, you filthy-rich absolute cockwombles.

[-] samus12345@lemm.ee 21 points 5 days ago

I seem to recall seeing a Christmas Carol story with Trump when he was last president in which the spirits tried warning him and he didn't get any of it, thinking that everything was just showing that he's the greatest. Accurate.

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[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago

Forcing the homeless into privately run concentration camps. What a sick bastard.

[-] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 29 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

"claiming advocacy groups profit from maintaining high homelessness rates."

Uhhh . . . how? "You there! Go be homeless! I need to profit from your utter lack of income."

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[-] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 35 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Kind of like the "self-made billionaire."

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 37 points 5 days ago

Homelessness is a lie and propaganda? That's news to all the homeless people I used to regularly interact with when I worked down town.

[-] andallthat@lemmy.world 19 points 5 days ago

can you imagine how happy they will be? "How did I fall for this? I was really convinced I was homeless!"

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[-] KnowledgeableNip@sh.itjust.works 42 points 5 days ago

Can't he fuck off and die on Mars already?

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[-] ramsorge@discuss.online 21 points 5 days ago

He says it’s a lie because he thinks those people are just NPCs

[-] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 23 points 5 days ago

He thinks everybody is a NPC, as do all sociopaths.

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[-] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 26 points 5 days ago

Elon Musk is actually bullet proof. Impervious to bullets. I guarantee it.

*Ymmv

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It is so disgusting. Print out this news article, stick it to your wall. Read it every day to remember why these people are a disease to society.

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 days ago

Better yet, stick on public walls

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 44 points 6 days ago

Fuck you, I kinda rely on that shit to feed my family because my employer doesnt give out any annual increases or anything. I also use the state health insurance and my wife uses other government assistance programs. Dudes really just want me to protest outside of the White House.

[-] DougHolland@lemmy.world 33 points 5 days ago

Dudes really just want me to protest outside of the White House.

Dudes want you to die.

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[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 40 points 5 days ago

Musk just went from giant douche to pure evil.
The man is literally insane now.

I suppose it's good he moved to USA, he is fitting in nicely.

Of course it's a lie. With his money, he could end it overnight.

[-] yarr@feddit.nl 15 points 5 days ago

For someone that claims to be so data-driven, I'd be curious what data he is looking at here when he calls it a lie. I will say that it is factual that the US spends a lot of money on homelessness and we still have homelessness, but the existence of homelessness is not something I would call a lie.

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[-] ArchRecord@lemm.ee 10 points 4 days ago

This is the danger of elite projection. What his life is like must be how other people's lives are like.

He was successful. If he wanted to get a job, he could. If he did work, he got paid.

If these people aren't doing that, it must be their fault, and they need "treatment" (via institutionalization) in his mind. It couldn't possibly be because to get a job, you often need existing housing, but to get housing, you need money from a job. Or the fact that people like him don't pay enough.

It's always their fault. Individual responsibility, meritocracy and all that jazz.

[-] perestroika@lemm.ee 19 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Living on latitude 60 where being homeless can (and sometimes does) kill - I think the first step is giving a person who is homeless a place where they can set up a (semi)permanent home. That will go a long way towards solving the underlying issues which a shelter system cannot address.

A relevant paper from the EU Commission:

In February 2008, the Finnish government adopted a programme aimed at halving long-term homelessness by 2011. Referring to the “Housing First” principle, which considers that appropriate permanent accommodation is a prerequisite for solving other social and health problems, the programme seeks to reduce and gradually abandon the use of conventional shelters and change them into supported rented accommodation units.

Outcomes via OECD:

While there is no OECD-wide average against which to compare Finland’s homeless rate of 0.08%, other countries with similarly broad definitions of homelessness provide points of reference, such as neighbouring Sweden (0.33%) or the Netherlands (0.23%). [1]

Finland’s success is not a matter of luck or the outcome of “quick fixes.” Rather, it is the result of a sustained, well-resourced national strategy, driven by a “Housing First” approach, which provides people experiencing homelessness with immediate, independent, permanent housing, rather than temporary accommodation (OECD, 2020).

Getting better outcomes than neighbours is a reliable indicator that a policy does work.

P.S.

Regarding Musk:

"Downregulate Musk" will be my anwer to any mention of this election-buying oligarch, probably for a while. A kneejerking far rightist is no person to call any policies.

[-] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 33 points 6 days ago

Depose Musk

[-] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 8 points 4 days ago

Ah yes, it is a "life style" choice and all that jazz..... Not at all the inevitable result of decades plus of poor governance/systemic failures.

[-] Doomsider@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

Likewise I call billionaires a lie and propaganda.

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[-] MonkeyBusiness@sh.itjust.works 12 points 5 days ago

Yeah, it's not the homeless people that are victims of a cruel society that has not only abandoned but also ostracized them. It's the wealthy that have to share an imperceptible amount of their wealth so that they have somewhere to sleep.

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[-] rational_lib@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

Clearly we can solve homelessness by simply terraforming Mars and moving all the homeless there, right?

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