Boxing. Constant movement, hell of a work out, and you get to punch shit
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Anything competitive works for me. Boxing, BJJ, rock climbing...
Actually "competitive" is the wrong word. It's any sport where I'm not in control of how much effort I'm putting in. Eg running doesn't work because as soon as someone beats me, I just stop trying
Walking the dog while listening to podcasts or audio books.
Knowing I won't feel like shit for the rest of the day.
I like to watch shows/videos while I workout. Made a rule that I can only watch certain things while I'm exercising. I look forward to watching those things and 'tricked' myself into being excited about the exercise, too! Also I feel much better after I've exercised, so I really look forward to that post-exercise feeling.
I try not to think about it as a punishment for what I ate, and more a celebration of what my body can do.
Yep. When you get old you won't be as able, so enjoy it while you can. And the exercise will likely prolong how long you can be mobile.
This is a great perspective, I’m going to embrace it.
:)
I like to walk, I pick nice places with good/interesting scenery. It's good mentally too, helps me unwind and work out problems and come up with new ideas.
Dance
Dance
REVOLUTION!!
(That rhythm game with the arrows on the screen and ground that you stomp on)
I've always loved sports; so that part's easy, personally. But I've also learned to kind of savor the feeling of using my muscles and getting tired. Whatever I'm doing, or even on days where I didn't have time to "exercise", I make a point to check in on different parts of my body, maybe tense them or stretch; just trying to notice what feels good and then really savor that feeling. I find that building that mental practice helps motivate me to seek out exercise, or power through when I'm not really enjoying a particular activity.
Experiencing the benefits of strength training day to day (being able to move heavy shit easily and not struggle with things that I used to) also seeing how I look in the mirror after I do it helps.
Fast speed hike incline on treadmill
Put in earbuds, drum&bass
Disassociate for 1-2 hrs while staring at the food channel
Play is a good one for aerobics. Going for a run or bike? Try to find new routes or go places you haven't before. Maybe run an errand. Maybe try to study wildlife or plants around while running one to another.
For strength training IDK. just pop in some absurd music and know that later it will feel good either just post exercise or weeks later when the exercise itself feels nice. It's also going to be nice when you go to lift a thing or hike and recognize you're actually stronger. Always a rewarding feeling!
In either case, it's important to reflect positively on your progress. "Hell yeah i can do this thing now thanks to my effort!“ and not negatively e.g. "my goals are so far away I'm so weak".
I like to bike, and my motivation is to see what is around the bend…. And so i needed to spend a week recovering after biking 50 miles, and hard bonking 35 miles from my car. But hey i absolutely had the motivation to do that to my self.
Now my next motivation is survival, because the Sun has totally gone down, and if i don’t make it back to my car, i might actually die. A very powerful motivator that one.
I just do it until I physically cant
Not sure if this answers the question; but, as soon as I learned about BDNF and how muscle building can increase the levels of it, I became a gym rat. I want my brain to keep working past 90 and be able to program well into my 90s (I wanna be yelling at everyone about my struggles with Rust).In all seriousness if you don't wanna have dementia a little too early in life. Lift. Weights. Don't ignore cardio though. But BUILD so you can reap the benefits of your lean mass into your elder years . Training also helps me improve my MTB performance, which I find really fun.
Sorry for the wall of text :D
Got any sources to read up on BDNF and working out? I just checked some stuff online but it's mostly either ai-slop articles or science papers about the protein itself 😅
This stuff is incredibly complex to study. And every time I read a study I forget to archive it somewhere. We don't have all of the answers, but studies like this one:https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37600508/
Really make me go, get your ass to the gym. No excuses.
And I suspect we are just looking at the tip of the iceberg here when it comes to things like BDNF. In short, exercise (specifically Strength Training and HIIT) seems well worth it since it is having some kind of effect on people who already have Alzheimer's.
I wish the fitness industry promoted the practical and real cognitive benefits of strength training instead of using using people with eating disorders and six-packs(six-packs usually aren't healthy by the way) to show/advertise the "perfect body". When in reality they should be promoting how much it can help your cognition and mood. I might get heat for this, but I'll say it anyway: I swear people would not have to take as many antidepressants in this country as they do if they just strength-trained twice a week. I see it in the software industry every day how people 15,20 years my senior (whom I respect since they are my mentors) and it hurts to see the beer gut and the lack of vitality (you can see this in someone's face regardless of age) just because as programmers we are sitting all the time, and if you don't fight the negative side effects of that with exercise your body will respond in nasty ways.
Thanks! I took a look at the studie and it's "citations" and "cited by" articles. Sounds promising! I've got dementia / AD in the family, pretty sure I'm next in line in about 50 years. I've never heard about the topic but it seems pretty rigorously researched!
I climb, but not very often. Time to get the running shoes out and start getting some regular exercise in again.
Weight lifting can get stolen for all I care, I hate it 😂 But we have a forest exactly 3 minutes walk away, so time to get out in nature again!
I understand weightlifting/resistance training is not for everybody. It is crucial to prevent sarcopenia a little too early in life. And it doesn't take a whole lot to get 90% of the benefits from strength training. Two sessions/week of 1hr each is all you need to reap most of the benefits.
find an activity that you legitimately enjoy. that's it
Well, shit.
Trial a load of sports. One will click.
wasn't trying to be flippant or trivialize this but at the core it's what is needed
I found that trying to distract or occupy my mind while trying to work wasn't enough, for example watching a show or listening to music while using my row erg as a primary workout. Still found myself counting down the time and minutes
I climb shit. In the gym and outside. It feeds my inner child, it's fun, it's exciting, and it involves problem solving so stimulates the mind. Rowing and biking are now secondary exercises or activities to support my climbing fitness and ability. I find doing them with less intensity, less often, and as support (shorter duration) makes it easier for me to digest because I know it will better me for what I truly enjoy. Along the way you just may find yourself growing to accept, like or love something.
Kinda gotta find workable angles that suit your mind and goals. eventually you'll have tricked yourself into becoming a healthy bastard who has some fun along the way
Sorry, I totally wasn't trying to be dismissive either, but I think it came across like that. When depression gets bad it's just hard to find anything enjoyable, and sticking with it anyway is real hard. I'll just have to keep at it until something clicks I guess.
I hike/walk daily with my dog. ~8km per day, although some days are shorter, some are longer.
I've never enjoyed anything at all in my life.
So we need to harness your disdain and hatred and work with that..
what do you hate most?
By doing physical activity that's intrinsically rewarding.
If you enjoy bike riding, go ride your bike, and don't even bother thinking about it as exercise. Enjoy, and get into it.
The fitness part is just a side effect.
I started lifting for self improvement and quickly got hooked on progression and getting stronger. It didn't take long to become a habit and now it's the thing I most look forward to after a long day of work. With no more than three hours per week you can completely transform yourself..
Lift heavy things! If you keep lifting them then you can lift even heavier things!
No joke, this is my favorite aspect too. It gets to a point where you start to enjoy the soreness.
I used to hate exercise. Then, I pushed myself to do it regularly and the benefits surpassed the negative side of it by a lot. For instance, almost all my chronic pain issues are gone, so I'm saving a couple hundreds yearly on healthcare. I also feel better physically (I can move better, I have better endurance) if I'm exercising regularly compared to when I'm not. Because, let's face it, I don't like it, so every now and then I stop for reasons and getting into it back again is very difficult. But it's always worth it.
Find sports that you actually enjoy - try out different things. In my case:
- Cardio: running fucking sucks, swimming is boring as shit. Cycling, on the other hand, is pretty fun. Feels like flying when everything aligns.
- Strength: lifting weights at the gym is doable, but boring. Climbing? Hell yeah, give me more routes where I have to tie myself into a knot while pulling up all my weight with my fingertips.
It can be an exact opposite of it for you. Or you'll find out that team sports are the bees knees because support from other people is what you've been missing.
I do it for my dogs. They drag me out and make me walk.
I lost 30lbs and doubled my muscle mass by doing a gentle calisthenics routine to failure every night while watching the whole series for King of the Hill. I found it kept me busy enough to not notice how much I hated exercise but it wasn't distracting enough to need to stop and watch.
Audiobooks.
Music is fine, but I actually find I will make more time to exercise if I'm listening to a good book.
Find something you actually enjoy.
Historic European Martial Arts. Swing a sword and mace.
Or you can dance, or juggle, or tumble...
Stephen Fry lost 100 pounds by listening to audiobooks while he walked.
There are game consoles that connect to a treadmill; you have to keep your legs pumping or the game stops.
Hiking. I don't try to climb mountains,just get out and move. The fact I have to watch my footing and have a chance of seeing (or at least hearing) wildlife helps distract from the fact exercising sucks.
I use mental tricks as well. I had to bribe myself to get started. "Look there's a trail near that takeout place you like, if you hike you can get takeout!" If I run out of breath due to uphill terrain, I'm not stopping because I can't keep going, it's clearly to look at this neat bird/bug/plant. If I have an off day and need to turn back early, I remind myself that I've already won by getting off the couch.
Try different things until you find something that feels good even as an idea. Think about things you like doing and how you like them. For me, I dislike team sports and being surrounded by people in a gym setting. I like doing things on my own, preferably at home while not talking to anyone. I first start thinking about maybe enjoying a spooky story podcast while walking so I start thinking about the temperature and the things I like watching while I'm out, etc. Same for weight lifting, pilates and yoga (Those are my cyclical workouts. I get bored easily) I hype myself up in my head first and then use the "do it for five minutes" method.
I have NEVER said "Well I wish I didn't come to yoga. This class sucked" "That lifting routine was a total waste of time. Not doing it again"
Also, having cute/neat stuff for it helps, just beware of spending habits. Did I need to buy green yoga blocks? No Do they make me Happy everytime I look how they are the exact same shade as my pothos? Yes they do.
I second this comment. Podcast suggestions? I loved:
- We're alive
- The walk
- The Magnus archives
Oh nice selection you got there!
I like Mr Ballen's early stuff, Raven reads, some Mr. Nightmare here and there, Coffeehouse crime is another favorite.
In spanish I like Relatos de la Noche and La voz que lo cuenta todo.
I got a kid but not a car. Just walking to the kindergarten and back twice a day is movement. We spend a lot of time outdoors at playgrounds or parks and I have to do all the grocery shopping by bike or walking. I don't do other physical exercise admittedly, but this kid is a fitness machine. We be running, playing, I need to lift her, carry her, carry her stuff, clean up, wrestle - for real having a kid made me the most physically fit and active I've ever been.
When I was younger I liked to dance. Trying to lose weight I'd just put headphones on in my room and dance for hours. A friend of mine actually lost a crapton of weight this way, think obese to normal weight.
Also, making a kid (and training for it and reenacting it) is great exercise.